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JDPriestly

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52. Right. And you have to make a claim to the right EEOC or state
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:14 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:49 AM - Edit history (1)

equivalent office.

The laws do not adequately protect older workers.

I worked for a company that fired an older woman. I don't know that reason they gave for doing it, but the real reason (and I am sure of this) was that she was hard of hearing. Old and with a disability, but they fired her. It's just cruel out there.

If you are young and you can't get work, you can trust that when the economy gets better, you will get a chance. But when a person is over 60 and loses a job in an economic downturn, he or she will most likely never get another job.

Yet people like Pete Peterson want to raise the eligibility age for Social Security. He is living in the past. Nowadays, quite a number of people are taking early Social Security because they cannot get jobs, not because they are tired of working or because they have enough saved to retire in comfort.

On edit, I think people should talk to a lawyer if they are over 50 and are fired. It's true that the chances of winning a lawsuit or settlement are small, but every time someone wins, it is a blow against discrimination. It is important even if the settlement or judgment is not very high.

A lot of lawyers will talk to a new client without charge for the initial interview. People need to call several lawyers and check with the local bar association or an employment law attorneys association to find someone to advise them. Your cautionary post is helpful, but unless people sue for age discrimination, what can you do?

The important thing is that older employees should keep a file. Note the dates that your employer does something that makes you feel uncomfortable. Don't get angry. Get even.

And no. I am not an employment lawyer. I am retired. I know that employers are given a lot of advice on how to fire people. Unfortunately, employees do not get any advice on how to deal with the dog-eat-dog workplace world in which we now live.

It's a crying shame. American workers are being taken advantage of. They give the good years of their life to their work and all too often are simply thrown out with very little to show for all their effort. It's so sad.

He has indeed....... PDJane Nov 2012 #1
Ezra is a good man. I really love him. He's got compassion lux along with brains. roguevalley Nov 2012 #17
Social security is OFF the table! NO American, no matter one's social status, BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #2
agreed. we should be RAISING the benefits. nt tomp Nov 2012 #38
Maybe IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT, Social Security would be off the table. You're not. It isn't. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #42
Well, I should have headlined my post with BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #47
"Social security CUTS on earned benefits are off the table"? You believe this? Too funny. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #48
Yes, I believe it because it's true. You don't? Too funny. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #49
I believed that AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #51
Okay. Now I see where you're coming from. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #55
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #57
Oh how mature of you. Another one of your brilliant posts BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #58
Major projection from fat cats living in a bubble Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #3
The age of retirement should be lowered, not raised Flagrante Nov 2012 #4
Flagrante is soooo right. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #14
democrats? wishful thinking. tomp Nov 2012 #39
Democrats as opposed to Republicans. I read that pretty clearly in the post. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #50
neither party can be counted on.... tomp Nov 2012 #53
President Obama has "telegraphed" compromise because, 1: He's not a dictator; BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #56
the expected delusional democrat reply. tomp Nov 2012 #59
And I don't need BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #60
i'm sorry to see your intransigent sycophancy, though it is exactly what i expected. tomp Dec 2012 #61
"It's going to take Democrats ..." AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #46
great point! NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #22
Exactly! That's what I keep saying too ... 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #30
You are John2 Nov 2012 #5
the real value of the cap has gone up hfojvt Nov 2012 #6
2012 cap is ~ $110000 spooky3 Nov 2012 #36
This was great information.... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #7
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #8
I have not been able to find the source, but... VPStoltz Nov 2012 #9
People who are well off hate Social Security, and always have. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #10
A lot of people can't get hired once they're over 50 LiberalEsto Nov 2012 #11
The "trickle down" job creators, what an effing joke. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #15
"Trickle down" KansDem Nov 2012 #28
Great graphic. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #43
K&R! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #13
K & R AzDar Nov 2012 #16
Every commenter on this thread needs to make a commitment to-- eridani Nov 2012 #18
Retirement even later for blue collar workers is crazy Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #19
It really just makes more sense to allow people glowing Nov 2012 #20
+1 area51 Nov 2012 #37
He cut the best video rant ever made on this subject. reusrename Nov 2012 #21
Important subject. hay rick Nov 2012 #23
This is the best reasoned piece I have read. Thanks, will be sharing it. freshwest Nov 2012 #24
Let's just eat these fuckers and get on with our lives. RagAss Nov 2012 #25
Wow. K & r AllyCat Nov 2012 #26
Thank you for this excellent, thoughtful post. snot Nov 2012 #27
Completely missing from the discussion is the fact that, in many instances, JDPriestly Nov 2012 #29
"If ... you are over 50, talk to a lawyer ..." (1) Court victories for such persons are rare. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #45
Right. And you have to make a claim to the right EEOC or state JDPriestly Nov 2012 #52
You, of course, raise a good point when you mention that some attorneys will talk to new contacts AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #54
The people who depend the most on social security are those who work in physically laborious jobs spicegal Nov 2012 #31
Someone should kick The Wizard Nov 2012 #32
It's disgusting, but no surprise lbrtbell Nov 2012 #33
Raising retirement age again? rickyhall Nov 2012 #34
Many have no control over the age they "retire." If we lose our jobs Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #35
You defeat the purpose of SS by raising the age! The "fix" should not focus on age, Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #40
The Answer To The Life Expectancy Issue DallasNE Nov 2012 #41
K&R Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #44
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