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Steven Maurer

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120. They did...

Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:26 PM

Mar 21

The people, if you look at the crosstabs, that didn't show up for Hillary (who'd showed up for President Obama) were black men.
That's not all of what went wrong, but it was significant enough to throw the election.

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Breaking - the US has called for an immediate cease fire in Gaza [View all] malaise Mar 21 OP

K&R spanone Mar 21 #1

About time. marble falls Mar 21 #2

Release of Israeli hostages tied to Washington's demand as Biden administration ups pressure on ally Nanjeanne Mar 21 #3

Thanks for the link malaise Mar 21 #5

I'm not sure what the final text will be. I'd like to be hopeful but I don't feel it yet. Nanjeanne Mar 21 #7

That won't happen. BWdem4life Mar 21 #49

Hostages enid602 Mar 21 #84

Of course it is ripcord Mar 21 #58

This seems prudent Johnny2X2X Mar 21 #4

Any rooting out of Hamas will always result in the same outcome TheKentuckian Mar 21 #38

Will this appease edhopper Mar 21 #6

Anti-Biden Palestinian supporters were anti-Biden all along meow2u3 Mar 21 #14

NYT: Democratic Donors Warn Biden Over Israel-Gaza Policy 3/20/24 Gaugamela Mar 21 #17

That's not what I'm seeing on Facebook womanofthehills Mar 21 #112

Hmm, maybe they will vote No Labels. Oh wait.... louis-t Mar 21 #114

100 percent no BannonsLiver Mar 21 #22

No, most think it's too late to do so MuchBetterThanThis Mar 21 #31

Sorry, that's just dumb. Ocelot II Mar 21 #41

I really ForgedCrank Mar 21 #67

Reminds of of predictions sarisataka Mar 21 #69

They did... Steven Maurer Mar 21 #120

Black men? Are you kidding? What about the Pumas/white women? brush Mar 22 #127

Relative drop-off is what we're talking about here Steven Maurer Mar 23 #139

Place the blame where it's due...on white voters for trump. No excuses for them. brush Mar 23 #140

In every critical swing state in 2016 Hillary lost by less than 1%. In everyone of those critical JohnSJ Mar 22 #131

I agree with you 100%. skylucy Mar 21 #78

Well that is stupid edisdead Mar 21 #45

Trump and his Republicans thank your wife and any others like her for her support. W_HAMILTON Mar 21 #52

"Won't forgive him". How magnanimous of THEM. You don't vote for Biden means you help trump. Anything else is bulshit JohnSJ Mar 22 #126

Don't even call them that. They are the same wing that hasn't reliably voted BootinUp Mar 21 #111

Glad we finally got there. 2naSalit Mar 21 #8

If they were to release the surviving hostages PCIntern Mar 21 #9

Ceasefire is a lie. There are no fucks given if firing continues unabated TheKentuckian Mar 21 #24

Ex-actly! PCIntern Mar 21 #37

The surviving hostages and bodies of the deceased hostages. CincyDem Mar 21 #30

Yes. Terse and to the point BunkieBandit Mar 21 #76

There is only one reason why you say what you say. Brenda Mar 21 #103

Yeah, except poster did not do that. They were explicit that they were talking about Hamas and Hamas only. emulatorloo Mar 21 #108

We all know that ain't happening womanofthehills Mar 21 #117

Basically the same news from the beginning of March Donkees Mar 21 #10

A cease fire is long overdue. Sky Jewels Mar 21 #11

It's a step in the right direction to negotiations rather than killing. Ping Tung Mar 21 #12

Yes!! TODAY. AllyCat Mar 21 #13

Cut off our supply of weapons nowforever Mar 21 #15

Hamas has not been nullified. They are still attacking TheKentuckian Mar 21 #20

there's been more than enough time to eliminate Hamas TomDaisy Mar 22 #122

By what definition that doesn't escalate civilian casualties well beyond TheKentuckian Mar 22 #136

The day the ceasefire begins . . . Richard D Mar 21 #16

However Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #27

Um . . . Richard D Mar 21 #29

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Why? Butterflylady Mar 21 #73

Um . . . Richard D Mar 21 #48

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Of course . . . Richard D Mar 21 #119

No, we shouldn't have bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.. Butterflylady Mar 21 #80

Were... Richard D Mar 22 #134

Calling the prospect of something that just happened ludicrous and silly TheKentuckian Mar 22 #137

You do realize after 68 dead civilians at Pearl Harbor we proceeded to kill almost 3 million Japanese... EX500rider Mar 21 #68

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So what was your plan to stop Japan enslaving all of Asia? EX500rider Mar 21 #86

FDR decided it was a good idea to round up all Americans of Japanese descent and put them in internment camps MichMan Mar 21 #118

That does not sound like a plan to defeat the Japanese Empire which is what I asked EX500rider Mar 22 #124

China might have disagreed sarisataka Mar 21 #88

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US is sending Ukraine old/decommissioned equipment. Do you have reputable sources to back up your opinion that emulatorloo Mar 21 #110

Ukraine might have chosen negotioation when they were invaded sarisataka Mar 21 #115

WTF? Mossfern Mar 21 #74

That's the exact fucking outcome TexasDem69 Mar 21 #85

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If there is no opposing army in Gaza TexasDem69 Mar 21 #93

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In your opinion sarisataka Mar 21 #98

I was reading DU in 2001 TexasDem69 Mar 21 #99

Weird we remember different things Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #105

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What do you propose Israel do? TexasDem69 Mar 21 #96

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You're right - the Palestinians have neither the money or the military...what they do have though is... CincyDem Mar 21 #35

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College students were chanting the "River to the Sea" slogan on US campuses NickB79 Mar 21 #54

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Pure ignorance Zeitghost Mar 21 #62

Ignorance you say..... Butterflylady Mar 21 #82

It's what the saying means Zeitghost Mar 22 #123

Netanyahu also used the saying. brush Mar 22 #129

You may be unaware of anyone wishing harm to Israel sarisataka Mar 21 #65

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" I'm not aware of even one Palestine supporter or wishing any direct harm to Israel." lol, eyes closed or what? EX500rider Mar 21 #70

If you support "from the river to the sea" TexasDem69 Mar 21 #101

Easy test...ask them what river and what sea. CincyDem Mar 21 #106

I was going to reply with snark sarisataka Mar 21 #75

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Apples and oranges... CincyDem Mar 21 #104

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Appreciate your perspective here and I'll like you to think about the difference between Gaza and Germany... CincyDem Mar 21 #116

Maybe Netanyahu will also take the time to strenthen border defenses... brush Mar 22 #128

It's time for president Biden to set aside American politics and assume the roll of interenational statesman. flashman13 Mar 21 #18

Upon returning to the DU home page I find this post by Nanjeanne of an article in Haaretz flashman13 Mar 21 #19

And when Hamas steals the aid Mountainguy Mar 21 #34

But what about? Put aside the talking points. I suggest you look up the definition of humanitarian. flashman13 Mar 21 #36

Its what has and will happen Mountainguy Mar 21 #39

You really should read up on the history of the Middle East.... Butterflylady Mar 21 #89

What is humanitarian about setting up the exact scenario described? TheKentuckian Mar 21 #43

Let me be blunt here. Israel is currently conducting mass murder against two million people flashman13 Mar 21 #59

Well said Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #63

However many it takes for them to release the hostages, surrender, and cease the attacks. TheKentuckian Mar 21 #79

You're simply wrong TexasDem69 Mar 21 #87

Well said, Goddessartist Mar 22 #133

Co-sign. I've take a lot of verbal garbage from people here for speaking for the innocent. onecaliberal Mar 22 #135

We will still be calling for an end to the killing of innocent women and children. EVERYDAY. onecaliberal Mar 21 #83

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Sure, Jan. onecaliberal Mar 21 #100

Hamas doesn't care. Fozzledick Mar 21 #21

That statement is .....wow I'm.... Butterflylady Mar 21 #92

YES!!!! And did you notice that the Trump shill Johnson has invited that nice Bibi to address the House? PatrickforB Mar 21 #23

Empty words unless we tell Israel that we will cut off military aid if they don't comply. Goodheart Mar 21 #25

long overdue, but, when it fails, are we dragged into this war? Against Israel? lindysalsagal Mar 21 #26

We aren't going to war with Israel. Ace Rothstein Mar 21 #28

There is fucked up and then there is, well, the Middle-East. twodogsbarking Mar 21 #32

Iraq violated, like, three UN resolutions, and got invaded. Aristus Mar 21 #33

Should the UN invade Israel? sarisataka Mar 21 #40

No. Definitely not. Aristus Mar 21 #51

Kinda hard to take the UN seriously when 2/3rds of the resolutions Mosby Mar 21 #53

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And are 2/3's of the worlds Human Rights violations happening in Palestine & Israel? EX500rider Mar 21 #71

You're right Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #90

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 21 #42

Hopefully the US adds in punitive measures should this ceasefire, much like the last one, be violated. Lancero Mar 21 #50

DURec leftstreet Mar 21 #61

If Ukraine was doing to Russia after it invaded Zeitghost Mar 21 #66

Kick orangecrush Mar 21 #72

Finally! mahina Mar 21 #77

Good. TomDaisy Mar 22 #121

The latest -US, EU ratchet up pressure on Israel over Gaza ceasefire; UN vote planned malaise Mar 22 #125

BREAKING: The magical word "ceasefire." betsuni Mar 22 #130

It included a return of all the Hostages JI7 Mar 22 #132

Ceasefire got voted down - Sticking point was, apparently, Hamas releasing the hostages. Lancero Mar 22 #138