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In reply to the discussion: We may be in trouble [View all]stopdiggin
(11,558 posts)16. it goes pretty far in this territory
And it should be acknowledged that Biden has been trying to urge deescalation - for a solid period of time now. If that argument doesn't cut it - that probably just places a certain unpersuadable faction out there in the "my way or the highway" crowd. It's unfortunate, but there really isn't much point in expending a lot of effort in changing a clearly entrenched point of view.
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Except that Whiny was offended because Netanyahu congratulated Biden after he won
question everything
Mar 12
#72
I believe that anything all of us and the media can easily see is seen by Biden's team
karynnj
Mar 12
#53
There are a lot of people who think if things hit rock bottom, everything will collapse and then
NYC Liberal
Mar 12
#89
Tell them warmonger Netanyahu is bombing Gaza and Biden is trying for a ceasefire and hostage release...
brush
Mar 12
#3
They know that the US is sending the weapons that are bombing the Palestinians.
Big Blue Marble
Mar 12
#4
quit the damn Bernie bashing. he's already been out there supporting Biden
NoRethugFriends
Mar 12
#60
As a Vermonter, I KNOW he was out of state campaigning where the Clinton campaign wanted him
karynnj
Mar 12
#86
Hillary joined Obama on the campaign trail for their first big rally together at the end of June.
betsuni
Mar 12
#103
I wonder how progressive Biden's agenda would be if it weren't for Bernie Sanders and a few others...
NoSheep
Mar 12
#65
I wonder what people imagine was the big huge fundamental change between what Biden ran
betsuni
Mar 12
#75
One more thing that might bring out the hesitant: Trump's comment a week ago that he would "finish the problem."
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#141
Thanks, unfortunately the list grows longer as people remind me of more skulduggery.
usonian
Mar 12
#143
Early on, try to argue that Trump is mentally ill. Urge them "NOT TO VOTE AT ALL"
Stuart G
Mar 12
#11
these aren't trump voters so it wouldn't matter. They might vote 3rd party. But, they won't vote for trump
mucifer
Mar 12
#29
But it was repeated over and over that "incrementalism" and "compromise" were horrible evil sins
betsuni
Mar 12
#87
I'm not implying anything. As I said, I hope they are rational when voting time comes.
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#36
I agree and I hear similar things from young voters. Pretending it doesn't matter doesn't make it go away. Nt
lostnfound
Mar 12
#26
And man. People in this thread are turning themselves inside out pretending it doesn't matter.
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#136
Pray, tell, and just WHAT does the kGOPb want to do with Muslims and Palestinians?
Baltimike
Mar 12
#22
Again I'll say, what's the point of all those AP classes and fancy expensive educations?
betsuni
Mar 12
#31
You don't know any of these "kids," do you? Because that post is just ignorant.
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#58
PS. Sensible edit. Wouldn't want people knowing you called another DUer "sugar tits."
Scrivener7
Mar 13
#154
Like how recycled '60s anti-establishment revolution became all the rage in 2016.
betsuni
Mar 12
#77
The ones I know are sincere and well informed. Their concern over the deaths of
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#121
Really? Education is filling their heads with Soviet era propaganda? What the fuck is happening in this thread?
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#134
Right? This thread has gone bonkers. Apparently, we're anti education now. Shaking my damn head.
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#135
We are not the ones who are anti education. And it is for good reason that we are not.
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#133
"We"? Who. I said "fancy expensive education." How is that "anti-education"? Is all education fancy
betsuni
Mar 13
#150
I know a grown-up who is exceedingly well informed who whines, "booo-hoo-no one represents my interests....
lindysalsagal
Mar 12
#39
The belief that if you don't think exactly as they do you're not only wrong but immoral, corrupt, and evil.
betsuni
Mar 12
#109
Black-and-white literal thinking, poor reading/listening/critical thinking skills, going right to personal insults
betsuni
Mar 12
#120
I'm working hard on my younger relatives right now. We've gotten to where they promise THEY
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#57
+1. The "Genocide Joe" propaganda immediately following Oct. 7 was extraordinary
dalton99a
Mar 12
#78
They are rational people. If we take your approach we'll make headway. If on the other hand, we take the advice of
Scrivener7
Mar 12
#137
This is why I think you can make a strong case Biden is the underdog in November.
All Mixed Up
Mar 12
#47
Probably not. But Biden is at risk of losing by sending money unconditionally.
All Mixed Up
Mar 12
#62
My 22 year old twins feel the same way about the killing of the Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but
iluvtennis
Mar 12
#59
What's confusing me is seeing alt-right gun humper bros wearing shemaghs, growing domestic terrorist beards
MenloParque
Mar 12
#82
The Steve Bannon/Cenk Uygur-Justice Democrats dream of a populist left and right-wing alliance.
betsuni
Mar 12
#99
I know that there are other young people with similar thoughts & it's infuriating.
themaguffin
Mar 12
#101
I'd ask them if they plan to be one issue, low information voters all their lives and then
littlemissmartypants
Mar 12
#127