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In reply to the discussion: Florida student says she felt sexually assaulted in school paddling..18 year old woman paddled alone by two men [View all]littlemissmartypants
(23,074 posts)80. Maybe because...
"Spanking" implies a literal "hands-on" event. That changes the calculus. The paddle not only inflicts more pain it also removes the touch element which is indeed an intimate assault of anyone especially a child.
Corporal Punishment in Schools
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Injuries to students
An estimated 1 to 2 percent of physically punished students in the United States are seriously injured, to the point of needing medical attention. According to the AAP and the Society for Adolescent Medicine, these injuries have included bruises, abrasions, broken bones, whiplash injury, muscle damage, brain injury, and even death.[8][9] Other reported injuries to students include "sciatic nerve damage",[8] "extensive hematomas", and "life-threatening fat hemorrhage".[9]
Promotion of violence
The AAP cautions that there is a risk of corporal punishment in schools fostering the impression among students that violence is an appropriate means for managing others' behaviour.[8] According to the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, "Corporal punishment signals to the child that a way to settle interpersonal conflicts is to use physical force and inflict pain".[12] And according to the Society for Adolescent Medicine, "The use of corporal punishment in schools promotes a very precarious message: that violence is an acceptable phenomenon in our society. It sanctions the notion that it is meritorious to be violent toward our children, thereby devaluing them in society's eyes. It encourages children to resort to violence because they see their authority figures or substitute parents doing it ... Violence is not acceptable and we must not support it by sanctioning its use by such authority figures as school officials".[9]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States
Corporal punishment of minors in the United States
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_of_minors_in_the_United_States
Legality of corporal punishment in public schools in the United States
Blue are states where it's illegal, while red are states where it's legal
Regulation of corporal punishment in public and private schools is done at the state level. There is no federal policy regarding corporal punishment in schools.[35] In 1977, the Supreme Court of the United States found that the Eighth Amendment clause prohibiting "cruel and unusual punishments" did not apply to school students, and that teachers could punish children without parental permission.[34]
In the US, as of 2024, corporal punishment even at school has been banned only in some states. As of 2024, 33 states and the District of Columbia have banned corporal punishment in public schools, though in some of these there is no explicit prohibition. Corporal punishment is also unlawful in private schools in Iowa, Maryland, New York and New Jersey. In the remaining 17 U.S. states corporal punishment is lawful in both public and private schools.[34]
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Spanking
Spanking is a form of corporal punishment ...snip...
Terminology
In American English, dictionaries define spanking as being administered with either the open hand or an implement such as a paddle.[5] Thus, the standard form of corporal punishment in US schools (use of a paddle) is often referred to as a spanking. In North America, the word "spanking" has often been used as a synonym for an official paddling in school,[6] and sometimes even as a euphemism for the formal corporal punishment of adults in an institution.[7]
In British English, most dictionaries define "spanking" as being given only with the open hand.[8] In the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the word "smacking" is generally used in preference to "spanking" when describing striking with an open hand, rather than with an implement. Whereas a spanking is invariably administered to the bottom, a "smacking" is less specific and may refer to slapping the child's hands, arms or legs as well as its bottom.[9]
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In Schools
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A number of medical, pediatric or psychological societies have issued statements opposing all forms of corporal punishment in schools, citing such outcomes as poorer academic achievements, increases in antisocial behaviors, injuries to students, and an unwelcoming learning environment. They include the American Medical Association,[26] the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,[27] the American Psychoanalytic Association,[28] the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP),[29][30] the Society for Adolescent Medicine,[31][32] the American Psychological Association,[33] the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health,[34][35] the Royal College of Psychiatrists,[36] the Canadian Paediatric Society[37] and the Australian Psychological Society,[38] as well as the United States' National Association of School Psychologists and National Association of Secondary School Principals.[39][40]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanking
Absolutely NO MENTION of Charter Schools. Because many justify it based on religious beliefs I don't believe it's discouraged. Quite the contrary, probably. What a nightmare!
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Injuries to students
An estimated 1 to 2 percent of physically punished students in the United States are seriously injured, to the point of needing medical attention. According to the AAP and the Society for Adolescent Medicine, these injuries have included bruises, abrasions, broken bones, whiplash injury, muscle damage, brain injury, and even death.[8][9] Other reported injuries to students include "sciatic nerve damage",[8] "extensive hematomas", and "life-threatening fat hemorrhage".[9]
Promotion of violence
The AAP cautions that there is a risk of corporal punishment in schools fostering the impression among students that violence is an appropriate means for managing others' behaviour.[8] According to the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, "Corporal punishment signals to the child that a way to settle interpersonal conflicts is to use physical force and inflict pain".[12] And according to the Society for Adolescent Medicine, "The use of corporal punishment in schools promotes a very precarious message: that violence is an acceptable phenomenon in our society. It sanctions the notion that it is meritorious to be violent toward our children, thereby devaluing them in society's eyes. It encourages children to resort to violence because they see their authority figures or substitute parents doing it ... Violence is not acceptable and we must not support it by sanctioning its use by such authority figures as school officials".[9]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States
Corporal punishment of minors in the United States
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_of_minors_in_the_United_States
Legality of corporal punishment in public schools in the United States
Blue are states where it's illegal, while red are states where it's legal
Regulation of corporal punishment in public and private schools is done at the state level. There is no federal policy regarding corporal punishment in schools.[35] In 1977, the Supreme Court of the United States found that the Eighth Amendment clause prohibiting "cruel and unusual punishments" did not apply to school students, and that teachers could punish children without parental permission.[34]
In the US, as of 2024, corporal punishment even at school has been banned only in some states. As of 2024, 33 states and the District of Columbia have banned corporal punishment in public schools, though in some of these there is no explicit prohibition. Corporal punishment is also unlawful in private schools in Iowa, Maryland, New York and New Jersey. In the remaining 17 U.S. states corporal punishment is lawful in both public and private schools.[34]
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Spanking
Spanking is a form of corporal punishment ...snip...
Terminology
In American English, dictionaries define spanking as being administered with either the open hand or an implement such as a paddle.[5] Thus, the standard form of corporal punishment in US schools (use of a paddle) is often referred to as a spanking. In North America, the word "spanking" has often been used as a synonym for an official paddling in school,[6] and sometimes even as a euphemism for the formal corporal punishment of adults in an institution.[7]
In British English, most dictionaries define "spanking" as being given only with the open hand.[8] In the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the word "smacking" is generally used in preference to "spanking" when describing striking with an open hand, rather than with an implement. Whereas a spanking is invariably administered to the bottom, a "smacking" is less specific and may refer to slapping the child's hands, arms or legs as well as its bottom.[9]
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In Schools
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A number of medical, pediatric or psychological societies have issued statements opposing all forms of corporal punishment in schools, citing such outcomes as poorer academic achievements, increases in antisocial behaviors, injuries to students, and an unwelcoming learning environment. They include the American Medical Association,[26] the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,[27] the American Psychoanalytic Association,[28] the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP),[29][30] the Society for Adolescent Medicine,[31][32] the American Psychological Association,[33] the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health,[34][35] the Royal College of Psychiatrists,[36] the Canadian Paediatric Society[37] and the Australian Psychological Society,[38] as well as the United States' National Association of School Psychologists and National Association of Secondary School Principals.[39][40]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanking
Absolutely NO MENTION of Charter Schools. Because many justify it based on religious beliefs I don't believe it's discouraged. Quite the contrary, probably. What a nightmare!
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Florida student says she felt sexually assaulted in school paddling..18 year old woman paddled alone by two men [View all]
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Mar 9
OP
When Senator Graham retired, it was all fucking downhill from there. MAGA fucked this place up.
SoFlaBro
Mar 9
#145
This was a while back. He was the governor then in the senate for three terms. Excellent executive and legislator.
SoFlaBro
Mar 10
#153
I think there is a case to be made that this is sexual assault... at least DA should be involved
hlthe2b
Mar 9
#4
I understand your perspective. I don't understand if it minimizes her assault to compare the two
littlemissmartypants
Mar 9
#11
That makes sense since the official state color is "embarrassment-red with a tinge of bruise-blue",...........
jaxexpat
Mar 9
#18
agreed. yet Florida GOP is worried about kids being exposed to Drag Queens
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Mar 9
#56
The use of an object called a paddle is what makes it paddling. Never heard of a girl getting it.
Hekate
Mar 9
#135
If anyone has any doubts about paddling, he/she/they should read "Death at an Early Age."
barbaraann
Mar 9
#21
She may have an open campus and a schedule where she can work part-time during the day.
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 9
#66
I've read stories like this before. Honor students are pressured into choosing the beating.
yardwork
Mar 9
#49
I'm against this form of punishment for a kid and at 18 it's veering into S&M territory.
Vinca
Mar 9
#29
public shaming? Tim Davis (former prof baseball player) did the paddling, Eric Willis watched.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Mar 9
#42
I fail to see why ISS couldn't have been scheduled to avoid the college class and work
dsc
Mar 9
#68