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graham4anything

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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:02 AM Nov 2012

David Carr-NY Times "For One Night at Fox, News tops Agenda"- article & MY RANT against CTers. [View all]

This article lower down from Nov. 12, 2012, I read Thanksgiving morning 11/22/12.

Due to hurricane Sandy and the aftermath where I live, a pile of newspapers piled up unread. Yesterday(Thanksgiving) in between the breakfast and the big family dinner my wife was cooking, I jumped into our Whirlpool tub in the bathroom for about an hour, with this big stack of newspapers from the last few weeks that have beem piling up.

First, if I may, my personal rant on the single greatest most satisfying victory WE the democrats and Barack Obama achieved a few short weeks ago.

This board has had about 100 different threads about the election aftermath and that President Obama only won because some hacker stopped Karl Rove from stealing the election.
These threads IMHO make interesting fodder for conspiracies, HOWEVER, they are without the good posters realizing it IMHO delegitimizing all the hard work, the single greatest community activist campaign in history to Get out the Vote and reelect Barack Obama (who is the single greatest President in 50 years past, and maybe 50 years forward).

President Obama (imho) won fair and square this election, in fact, an election IMHO again never in doubt, never close, never one he was going to lose. To me the only question was HOW BIG (SOOOOOOOOO BIG) (picture a parent with their little baby extending the babies arms)

This crap that Rove was going to steal it is really irritating me personally, and I am sure alot of hard working COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS IN CHICAGO AND NATIONWIDE.
YES- it was the awipes on the right who for four years have derided President Obama as nothing but a "community activist".

Well, suckers, it was BECAUSE OF THE GREAT COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS that helped the great GET OUT THE VOTE like never seen before, carefully for four years planning on who to poll, who to prod, which tactic to use for what voter, sign voters up, make sure they vote and secure the most satisfying victory any of us will ever see.

So this is my rant. WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE and nobody could have or would have stolen it because WE WON. WE GOT THE VOTES. and the other side is history.

IF the democrats stay united, use the same techniques in 2016 and 2020 and beyond, and remember CHICAGO and Axelrod and Plouffe and President Barack Obama and each and every one of HIS voters and those that believed in him and voted FOR him, we will find our kids and grandkids etc. will never see a republican/tea/libertarian elected president ever again.

Anyhow, I found this article from Monday, November 12, 2012 in the Business Day section B of that days New York Times (the actual in my hands copy.) I have located it online and am printing a little bit here (due to the copywrite rules of this board and in general, I am only selecting a couple of paragraphs, but urge everyone to read the whole article, especially those trying so hard to say Rove and that anony. hacker are the reason we won.)

NO, victory was so great, the "reporters", the "broadcast team" for one night, let the truth come out and not the propaganda rightwing lies.
(Much like that one day in the aftermath of Katrina, when Anderson Cooper was on TV crying, yelling, pleading for help to come into New Orleans, that NO help was there, that there were NO riots, only dying people (all Black) without food or water just wanting someone to help them. That single day in 2004, Rove was I think in minor surgery in a hospital, Condie was buying shoes in NY, Bush was secluded in Crawford with the single protester camped outside his compound for weeks and a bunch of supporters of her, and Fox that day somehow let the unfiltered truth slip through.)

anyhow-here is the article

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/business/media/fox-newss-election-coverage-followed-journalistic-instincts.html?ref=mediaequation
David Carr-the media equation "For One Night at Fox, News tops Agenda

(see post #2 immediately below this one, by me in this thread for a couple of paragraphs)

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David Carr-the media equation "For One Night at Fox, News tops Agenda"- graham4anything Nov 2012 #1
Good read n/t malaise Nov 2012 #3
Fox's part in the apparatus began long before the election JHB Nov 2012 #10
News my as* --- they just didn't want to be permanently associated with THE LOSER!! nt Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #58
Thank you OKNancy Nov 2012 #2
I don't think there are any people who would glowing Nov 2012 #4
+1 DeeDeeNY Nov 2012 #6
+2 bahrbearian Nov 2012 #21
Without all that hard work by the Obama team, Obama would never have won but.... fasttense Nov 2012 #5
i think so too barbtries Nov 2012 #7
I must disagree with you about 2016 and 2020. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #8
Those who forget history nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #9
Those who are confined by history are trapped into repeating it. randome Nov 2012 #12
Well, barring little things like, say alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #11
SO you think the GOP is done nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13
No, I think using 1964 and 1972 is just plain silly alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #17
It's not a silly analogy because it's not an analogy. It's just a warning against complacency. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #40
1968 was the democrats fault for tossing the 3rd greatest president ever in the river graham4anything Nov 2012 #16
"Vietnam was a stupid wedge issue distraction..." alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #18
That stood out to me also and gave me a sort of nasty feeling in the pit sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24
I see your strategy but I am not biting. graham4anything Nov 2012 #28
Isn't life itself performance art? (referencing the response above) graham4anything Nov 2012 #38
Life is indeed a work of art alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #64
add my 80,000 plus posts at CGCS with the 3000s more Kerry board,& 1000s more on Gore boards graham4anything Nov 2012 #70
We must stay aggressive. Obama's OFA is still active, just go to it's website. The organization bluestate10 Nov 2012 #19
Yes President Obama won fair and square nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14
Nader and the 97,000 people that voted for him in Florida put Bush in office. The sooner that bluestate10 Nov 2012 #20
Wrong , Nader was right. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #22
Problem is, and this is puzzling, well not really... nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23
THE SUPREME COURT- you mean the one that Nader lied and said Bush/Gore were the same? graham4anything Nov 2012 #29
Escuse me, but NADER had nothing to do with taht decision nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #30
Again, if Gore won NH, the US Supreme Court would never have been called in. Election over in NH graham4anything Nov 2012 #31
What I do not understand is your hate for the democratic system nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #34
So sad to see you trying so hard to make a crime out of something sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #35
You lost your own point. Gore/Kerry did not have the community organization Obama did. graham4anything Nov 2012 #37
Wrong, but keep on thinking that. Thankfully a majority of Dems sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #25
Blaming Nader stops Democrats from wasting their vote again in any new election graham4anything Nov 2012 #27
Are you that ingnorant of history? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #33
I have nothing against that. 50% should be required though. with a runoff. graham4anything Nov 2012 #36
We have 52 states? zappaman Nov 2012 #81
I don't know what to say to you if you think that blaming Nader sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #39
Before you call people names, let me ask you-were you on the street protesting in 2000 in Fl or DC? graham4anything Nov 2012 #42
They will never admit it. One of the 99 Nov 2012 #54
The persistent claim that Anonymous somehow... bvar22 Nov 2012 #15
"WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE and nobody could have or would have stolen it because WE WON..." Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #26
Al Gore didn't get to say it because of Ralph Nader. graham4anything Nov 2012 #32
Nader was a factor, but if all votes had been counted we'd never had to suffer Bewsh. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #41
SHh, already mentioned that, but nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #43
If one believes Nader, then one agrees Bush and Gore were the same & Bush&Kerry the same graham4anything Nov 2012 #44
I'm a Gore fan RobertEarl Nov 2012 #45
as President Obama says FORWARD. Gore won NH without Nader. graham4anything Nov 2012 #46
Go to bed RobertEarl Nov 2012 #48
This thread is about how President Obama won with no help from a hacker graham4anything Nov 2012 #50
I've always wondered if this 'blame Nader' was meant sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #78
I see Nader blamers as authoritarians RobertEarl Nov 2012 #80
While you prattle on Nader nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #60
This thread is being hijacked by Ralph Nader fans. A terrorist hacker did not help President Obama graham4anything Nov 2012 #47
You have Nader on the brain? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #49
stop with the conspiracy theories. Terrorist hackers belong in jail. Anarchy is not democracy. graham4anything Nov 2012 #51
Right E-vote is anarchy RobertEarl Nov 2012 #52
So do you believe Nader's line that Bush and Gore were one and the same? graham4anything Nov 2012 #53
Get Nader off your head RobertEarl Nov 2012 #55
Funny you and the 2 others do not answer that question. Backing Nader means believing his lies. graham4anything Nov 2012 #57
Vote for Hillary in 2016 and make sure Jeb doesn't win. Then there is no problem. graham4anything Nov 2012 #56
What if...perish the though, Hillary don't run? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #59
Vote for Michelle. And keep Chicago together.Remember, Chicago wins elections and is a good word graham4anything Nov 2012 #62
And Michelle is running? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #65
2025-2032. Michelle46, followed by Chelsea47 after Hillary45 and President Obama44 retire graham4anything Nov 2012 #69
We call that a coronation, not an election nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #73
What do you mean it's been proven false?? reusrename Nov 2012 #61
It was proven false above on this thread by someone living in Ohio. I trust they would know graham4anything Nov 2012 #63
I agree with everything you say, especially the part about Wellstone. reusrename Nov 2012 #66
RUUUNNNN. COMIES UNDER MY BED!!! nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #68
152 electoral votes. And they would all be Dem votes. Very simple, once you understand graham4anything Nov 2012 #71
No, there is no brain freeze here nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #72
If you believe in an anarchist who cowardly doesn't reveal their name(the hacker) then admit it. graham4anything Nov 2012 #74
Lead a horse to water comes at this point nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #75
What you are saying is...(I think) that... graham4anything Nov 2012 #76
No, that is what you are saying nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #77
No, that is what you are saying. If we both are saying it, then we are in agreement. graham4anything Nov 2012 #79
Ah red baiting again nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #82
the only red I bait is redstates. I love socialists & Communists. Especially REAL ones. graham4anything Nov 2012 #83
Are you saying the 2000 and 2004 elections were not stolen? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #84
Dirty tricks changed 2000, yes. But dirty tricks have been part of many an election. graham4anything Nov 2012 #87
So you don't believe the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. That's all I wanted sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #88
No one mentioned any terrorist hacker. Can you link to that information please? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #85
the guy/woman with no name. Whom you have credited with stopping Karl Rove. graham4anything Nov 2012 #86
You're not making any sense. Maybe you thought you were talking sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #89
It was a great GOTV effort, but it doesn't deny the fact that an election can easily be joeybee12 Nov 2012 #67
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