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shrike3

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56. I personally would have shown a little more opprobrium regarding Abbott, but that's me.

Tue Jan 23, 2024, 10:20 PM

Jan 2024

But maybe the support vibes I sensed from you were support for the state itself, which is understandable. It's your home. I'd appreciate you answering my second question. What do people in Texas think of his actions regarding the border? You don't know everyone in Texas, obviously, but you can read the temperature down there far better than I can. What do you see and hear from people? I'm not talking about polls; I'm talking about the mood. Are Abbott's actions popular?

I don't know what should be done re the current situation, but something's got to be done and soon. This can't continue.

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Time to deploy the US Army to Texas? [View all] The Contrarian Jan 2024 OP

Republicans are trying to use this issue to paint Biden soft on border enforcement bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #1

Agreed. The posse comitatus act seems relevant to this. Redleg Jan 2024 #3

You are correct. The Posse Comitatus Act applies. TomSlick Jan 2024 #31

-Texas keeps talking about leaving the union lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #5

Deleted not worth the effort MagickMuffin Jan 2024 #20

Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #27

Which other states are refusing to obey a court order? shrike3 Jan 2024 #36

biggest taker... lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #59

Link, please? Your repeated comments about California do not match any niyad Jan 2024 #62

Calexit and partition LeftInTX Jan 2024 #70

I should have made clear that I was talking about the taxes. niyad Jan 2024 #71

Stop all federal funding for Texas. Problem solved! Emile Jan 2024 #2

Except for the poor folks in Texas who need some of the federal dollars Redleg Jan 2024 #4

We could cut federal funding... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #28

TX sends more dollars to the federal government than it recieves. former9thward Jan 2024 #10

Well good then, they can use their own money Emile Jan 2024 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #16

That's just the point. The Contrarian Jan 2024 #22

Right now they are using federal money. Emile Jan 2024 #24

Texas IS using its own money TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #30

So you're cool with what Abbott's doing? Just curious. shrike3 Jan 2024 #37

That's a completely different question TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #38

Then answer it, kemosabe (You can use an old reference, so can I.) shrike3 Jan 2024 #41

Stating the facts TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #45

I personally would have shown a little more opprobrium regarding Abbott, but that's me. shrike3 Jan 2024 #56

I'm not smart enough to solve the border/immigration issue TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #60

That's been my take for years. shrike3 Jan 2024 #64

I hope Texas goes blue in 2024 TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #66

Hope springs eternal. shrike3 Jan 2024 #68

As long as they are receiving federal money they're not. Emile Jan 2024 #53

That covers only grants. Anything else? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #13

Do you have alternative information? former9thward Jan 2024 #15

I'm on a phone now, and it's hard to look things up. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #17

Actually in June of 2019 Progressive dog Jan 2024 #39

I'm willing to guess that Texas provides a lot more than just taxpayer money to the Federal government. Igel Jan 2024 #48

Oh yeah Texas is gwenerous Progressive dog Jan 2024 #95

Are you saying SS is a gift to the states? former9thward Jan 2024 #61

Obviously federal taxes pay for social security Progressive dog Jan 2024 #88

My taxes pay for SS. former9thward Jan 2024 #89

Taxes are paid to the Federal governent and Progressive dog Jan 2024 #96

You don't know what they include. former9thward Jan 2024 #97

It is like balance of payments between nations Progressive dog Jan 2024 #98

That figure is only for grants moniss Jan 2024 #81

If someone has the "correct" figure I wish they would post it. former9thward Jan 2024 #83

There are some moniss Jan 2024 #87

15 military bases does wonders for the economy there. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #90

And it does wonders for our military. former9thward Jan 2024 #91

And the idiots that want to secede TxGuitar Jan 2024 #94

This is America pwb Jan 2024 #6

Biden should call up the Texas National Guard. Presidential call ups trump Gubernatorial call ups. Kennah Jan 2024 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author marble falls Jan 2024 #8

Isn't it illegal to deploy active US military on US soil? The Posse Comitatus Act? brush Jan 2024 #9

Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock CanonRay Jan 2024 #14

The President would have to invoke the Insurrection Act first. DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2024 #29

It's an election year too. Looks like Eisenhower did this in 1957 after he was term limited. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #74

Who has ultimate authority ovewr the Guard? edhopper Jan 2024 #11

Sure. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #18

Greg, why are you letting all these undocumented immigrants in. Trump said his wall is completed. keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author B.See Jan 2024 #73

what biden needs to do moonshinegnomie Jan 2024 #21

You can't "court martial" civilian officials. brooklynite Jan 2024 #25

federalize the texas nat guard moonshinegnomie Jan 2024 #26

Without invoking the Insurrection act DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2024 #33

Still can't court martial the police TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #34

That will lose him political support Calculating Jan 2024 #92

The POSSE COMITATUS ACT prohibits the military from being used to implement domestic policy. brooklynite Jan 2024 #23

So how did Eisenhower do it in 1957? Polybius Jan 2024 #76

The National Guard is not the army. brooklynite Jan 2024 #78

A poster above said he sent in the army Polybius Jan 2024 #79

As an aside TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #32

Sounds like it's just a matter of some military re-shuffling... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #35

Is t the Texas national guard TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #40

Doesn't the word "National" mean anything? Think. Again. Jan 2024 #43

According to the internets TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #47

So there is no overiding central authority... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #50

No idea TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #51

National Guard can be federalized DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2024 #52

A quick wikipedia search... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #55

Nothing in that article TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #57

Except the part that says exactly that... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #58

Administration TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #63

Um, yeah. Think. Again. Jan 2024 #65

Being correct TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #67

I appreciate... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #69

Something has to be done. shrike3 Jan 2024 #42

Send the Coast Guard or Navy orthoclad Jan 2024 #44

Will U.S. agents take the traitor governor into custody? Marthe48 Jan 2024 #46

WTF? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #49

+1. Wouldn't want them campaigning against us calling Emile Jan 2024 #72

What do we do? Imagine trmp in the White House and a Dem Gov did this? spanone Jan 2024 #54

Not yet Polybius Jan 2024 #75

Time for Abbott to get George Wallace treatment. Sneederbunk Jan 2024 #77

The fundamental question is whether any state B.See Jan 2024 #80

The Romeikes are idiots for moving from a area51 Jan 2024 #82

That's exactly what Trump is proposing to do. Barry Markson Jan 2024 #84

Well what would you propose? The Contrarian Jan 2024 #85

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #93

An idea almost as meritless as calling for Texas to secede. Torchlight Jan 2024 #86

That's not going to happen. Autumn Jan 2024 #99

The Courts will deal with it. WarGamer Jan 2024 #100

Terrible political move pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #101