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EarlG

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24. Trump beat DeSantis (who came second) by
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 02:38 PM
Jan 2024

just under 30 percentage points. The previous record for margin of victory was 13 points by Bob Dole over Pat Robertson in 1988. So, a massive margin of victory.

But as mentioned, there is additional context: Trump's 30 point record victory also came from record low turnout.

Expectations for turnout at the Iowa caucuses had been high heading into the year, following record-shattering attendance in the last competitive GOP contest.

But just over 110,000 voters participated in the 2024 caucuses, falling well below the high expectations for turnout in 2024.

(snip)

In 2016, Republicans set a new record for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters. Though the total made up only about a third of all registered Republicans, turnout at the 2016 caucuses greatly outnumbered the 2012 contest, which had about 122,000 voters. And in 2008, the turnout was similar, with 120,000 voters, making the 2024 Iowa caucuses turnout the lowest in more than a decade.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iowa-caucus-turnout-2024

In 2016 Trump came second in Iowa with 45,429 votes. (Ted Cruz won with 51,666.) 8 years later Trump has the entire GOP on lockdown, he's a former president, and he's running to try and beat the man who defeated him. He got a significant *proportion* of the votes.

But while he only managed to get about 11,000 votes more than he did the first time around, overall the number of votes cast *dropped* by roughly 77,000 votes, or about 41%. That's a BIG drop, even with the bad weather. Remember -- in 2016 the US had just had 8 years of Obama and Hillary Clinton was on the ticket. Republicans were massively motivated to turn out. This time around, they appear to be less motivated than they were in 2012 or 2008.

Edited to add: You know what, there's another important factor here. Trump is essentially operating as the incumbent in the GOP primaries. He was their most recent president, from 2016-2020, and he's running again, after just one term, for a rematch. Usually when incumbents run in primaries they only get token opposition, if any. So maybe it's more instructive to compare Trump's win and margin of victory to other Republican incumbents:

Ronald Reagan, 1984
Vote share: 100% | Margin of victory: 100 percentage points (he ran unopposed, there was no primary)

George H. W. Bush, 1992 (essentially the incumbent)
Vote share: 100% | Margin of victory: 100 percentage points (he ran unopposed, there was no primary)

George W. Bush, 2004
Vote share: 100% | Margin of victory: 100 percentage points (he ran unopposed, there was no primary)

Trump, 2024
Vote share: 51% | Margin of victory: 30 percentage points

I think the technical term for that is a "loss of mojo."
Kick dalton99a Jan 2024 #1
Perfect illustration of how meaningless the Iowa caucus was. Fla Dem Jan 2024 #2
But Trumps mountain of Lies tries to make up for the little votes-and Maga will believe him no doubt riversedge Jan 2024 #3
56,260 out of 718,901 registered Republicans... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #4
For you math freaks (like me) that's less than 3% of registered voters. flashman13 Jan 2024 #16
Similar thing when it comes to rain predictions... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #17
It's not so much what you say, it's how you say it. keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #27
And here's another one NJCher Jan 2024 #53
I Find It To Be Very Low... ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #30
None of that really means anything. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #5
In my defense, of course it's spin EarlG Jan 2024 #14
I personally very much BlueMTexpat Jan 2024 #56
What was the record margin? Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #20
Trump beat DeSantis (who came second) by EarlG Jan 2024 #24
Thanks so much Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #39
Anecdotally, I see no Trump signs, no flags. shrike3 Jan 2024 #45
traitortrump likes to brag. It behooves us to point out the false parts of his brag. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #38
This is the real problem NJCher Jan 2024 #55
Much ado about nothing Blue Owl Jan 2024 #6
That's fascinating. qwlauren35 Jan 2024 #7
Indeed gratuitous Jan 2024 #8
Especialy when TFG ordered you to get out in the dangerous weather and vote for him..then it's ok if you die. usaf-vet Jan 2024 #11
I love this illustration! FakeNoose Jan 2024 #9
It's a bit of a weird one because EarlG Jan 2024 #34
KNR niyad Jan 2024 #10
The Main Stream Media (MSM) is bound and determined dobleremolque Jan 2024 #12
As someone else on DU pointed out. That's fewer people than attend a Iowa Hawkeye football game. progressoid Jan 2024 #13
What a delicious bit of information! 3catwoman3 Jan 2024 #48
Percent of Iowa population for Trump J3AC4 Jan 2024 #15
That's a lot of numbers! Pinback Jan 2024 #40
Described it elsewhere as: limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #18
I hope none of them died getting there to vote. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #19
For all the complaints about secure voting by the GOPers, why did they pass around paper grocery bags to put... Crowman2009 Jan 2024 #21
drumpf thinks tiny things are HUGE JoseBalow Jan 2024 #22
I know I posted that severely underreported fact about the actual turnout - lowest in over 20 years BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 #23
Cults of personality are motivated to come out in bitter cold Warpy Jan 2024 #25
That's literally half of the number of people that can fit into the University Of Michigan stadium. Initech Jan 2024 #26
Great illustration! lastlib Jan 2024 #28
The numbers that intrigue me are FemDemERA Jan 2024 #29
Yes, and EarlG Jan 2024 #32
So now the mainstream media agree... dchill Jan 2024 #31
I guess a lot of MAGA republicans we actually smart ... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2024 #33
I had to check the stats Faux pas Jan 2024 #35
It's true, markodochartaigh Jan 2024 #36
The only people that matter are the ones that show up. Renew Deal Jan 2024 #37
Can someone please forward this to the major media outlets? Reader Rabbit Jan 2024 #41
What does saying this is insignificant accomplish? brooklynite Jan 2024 #42
Handful of pundits excited by small number of Iowans moronic enough struggle4progress Jan 2024 #43
I love charts and graphs BigmanPigman Jan 2024 #44
All that matters is kacekwl Jan 2024 #46
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #47
He only got 8% of registered repukes in the state and I rounded up from 7.83%! kimbutgar Jan 2024 #49
Excellent analysis and graphic explanation of the significance (or insignificance). Martin68 Jan 2024 #50
Yeah, but he did handily beat all of the other Republican contenders. Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #51
Kick Demovictory9 Jan 2024 #52
Media outlets like Yahoo are joyfully screaming that Biden is done for. C Moon Jan 2024 #54
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