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In reply to the discussion: Pic Of The Moment: Putting That Trump Iowa Landslide In Perspective [View all]EarlG
(22,407 posts)24. Trump beat DeSantis (who came second) by
just under 30 percentage points. The previous record for margin of victory was 13 points by Bob Dole over Pat Robertson in 1988. So, a massive margin of victory.
But as mentioned, there is additional context: Trump's 30 point record victory also came from record low turnout.
Expectations for turnout at the Iowa caucuses had been high heading into the year, following record-shattering attendance in the last competitive GOP contest.
But just over 110,000 voters participated in the 2024 caucuses, falling well below the high expectations for turnout in 2024.
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In 2016, Republicans set a new record for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters. Though the total made up only about a third of all registered Republicans, turnout at the 2016 caucuses greatly outnumbered the 2012 contest, which had about 122,000 voters. And in 2008, the turnout was similar, with 120,000 voters, making the 2024 Iowa caucuses turnout the lowest in more than a decade.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iowa-caucus-turnout-2024
But just over 110,000 voters participated in the 2024 caucuses, falling well below the high expectations for turnout in 2024.
(snip)
In 2016, Republicans set a new record for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters. Though the total made up only about a third of all registered Republicans, turnout at the 2016 caucuses greatly outnumbered the 2012 contest, which had about 122,000 voters. And in 2008, the turnout was similar, with 120,000 voters, making the 2024 Iowa caucuses turnout the lowest in more than a decade.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iowa-caucus-turnout-2024
In 2016 Trump came second in Iowa with 45,429 votes. (Ted Cruz won with 51,666.) 8 years later Trump has the entire GOP on lockdown, he's a former president, and he's running to try and beat the man who defeated him. He got a significant *proportion* of the votes.
But while he only managed to get about 11,000 votes more than he did the first time around, overall the number of votes cast *dropped* by roughly 77,000 votes, or about 41%. That's a BIG drop, even with the bad weather. Remember -- in 2016 the US had just had 8 years of Obama and Hillary Clinton was on the ticket. Republicans were massively motivated to turn out. This time around, they appear to be less motivated than they were in 2012 or 2008.
Edited to add: You know what, there's another important factor here. Trump is essentially operating as the incumbent in the GOP primaries. He was their most recent president, from 2016-2020, and he's running again, after just one term, for a rematch. Usually when incumbents run in primaries they only get token opposition, if any. So maybe it's more instructive to compare Trump's win and margin of victory to other Republican incumbents:
Ronald Reagan, 1984
Vote share: 100% | Margin of victory: 100 percentage points (he ran unopposed, there was no primary)
George H. W. Bush, 1992 (essentially the incumbent)
Vote share: 100% | Margin of victory: 100 percentage points (he ran unopposed, there was no primary)
George W. Bush, 2004
Vote share: 100% | Margin of victory: 100 percentage points (he ran unopposed, there was no primary)
Trump, 2024
Vote share: 51% | Margin of victory: 30 percentage points
I think the technical term for that is a "loss of mojo."
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But Trumps mountain of Lies tries to make up for the little votes-and Maga will believe him no doubt
riversedge
Jan 2024
#3
traitortrump likes to brag. It behooves us to point out the false parts of his brag.
Hermit-The-Prog
Jan 2024
#38
Especialy when TFG ordered you to get out in the dangerous weather and vote for him..then it's ok if you die.
usaf-vet
Jan 2024
#11
As someone else on DU pointed out. That's fewer people than attend a Iowa Hawkeye football game.
progressoid
Jan 2024
#13
For all the complaints about secure voting by the GOPers, why did they pass around paper grocery bags to put...
Crowman2009
Jan 2024
#21
I know I posted that severely underreported fact about the actual turnout - lowest in over 20 years
BumRushDaShow
Jan 2024
#23
That's literally half of the number of people that can fit into the University Of Michigan stadium.
Initech
Jan 2024
#26
He only got 8% of registered repukes in the state and I rounded up from 7.83%!
kimbutgar
Jan 2024
#49
Excellent analysis and graphic explanation of the significance (or insignificance).
Martin68
Jan 2024
#50