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In reply to the discussion: Would you be in favor of a total removal of the 2nd Ammendment of the Constitution of the United States? [View all]
Iggo
(48,220 posts)126. Hey, there it is! The "All Or Nothing" false dichotomy.
Gunfuckers love that one.
Another one of their greatest hits is: “You guys come up with ideas, and we’ll tell you if we like them or not.” (Spoiler: It’s always “or not”…lol.)
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Would you be in favor of a total removal of the 2nd Ammendment of the Constitution of the United States? [View all]
Stuart G
Dec 2023
OP
Anything is possible....Donald Trump elected President?...I didn't think it was possible..It happened
Stuart G
Dec 2023
#3
because the danger to innocent people is so much greater with today's weapons. And people in the l8th century could not
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#410
OK, I'll take your premise. So are you saying that as that technology changed, the founders mindset would be the same as
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#412
I'm trying to envision how nice that would be in my daily life. How safe I would feel at home, driving in traffic, in a
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#414
As long as I'm here, it won't happen. But I don't feel I could leave him to visit my kids over Xmas. I'd be too scared.
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#419
Wow, how many times must we go over this? A well regulated militia means ...
SlimJimmy
Dec 2023
#288
Heh. "If my Aunt had wheels she'd be a pastry cart," says my husband. No offense to pastry carts.
Hekate
Dec 2023
#226
As far as i know, that expression precedes the coining of the word transphobia.
ShazzieB
Dec 2023
#284
No. I would be in favor of an amendment that says the militia aspect of the 2nd Amendment is no longer
Scrivener7
Dec 2023
#10
There is no reason for you to go off on me. You asked a question. I answered it.
Scrivener7
Dec 2023
#18
"Reasonable gun ownership" is a mirage. It becomes a tragedy when a reasonable gun owner gets angry, drunk and goes for
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#231
We should do that, of course, but that won't solve the gun problem here in the U.S.
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#373
You are correct. Then that would eventually lead to a dictatorship/police state.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#352
Inalienable rights were defined in the Declaration of Independence as Life, Liberty, The Pursuit of Happiness.
Gore1FL
Dec 2023
#357
Of course, what authoritarian government do you know that allows the people to be armed to the teeth to overthrow them..
usaf-vet
Dec 2023
#86
Got it. You don't like one of the definitions of a term that was in common use in the 1700's,
yagotme
Dec 2023
#294
You posted an article from "Time". "Time" has an anti-gun bias. Therefore, I suspect.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#313
I am someone whose family experienced a death because a law abiding citizen with a loaded gun in his night table
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#77
We would have had more decades of Marvin Gsye's music if there hadn't been a gun
wryter2000
Dec 2023
#122
It would be like closing Pandora's box. Or like closing the barn doors after the horses bolted.
Axelrods_Typewriter
Dec 2023
#25
What is a military style weapon? That definition has been slammed around for years. nt
yagotme
Dec 2023
#139
You are right that being LGBT you are at increased risk of danger in many places in the U.S.
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#91
If you follow the idea of "strict constructionist", then you'd better get off your computer.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#50
Getting rid of the 2nd amendment doesn't mean getting rid of gun ownership.
progressoid
Dec 2023
#58
OK. That's one option. Doesn't really matter since this is all hypothetical.
progressoid
Dec 2023
#145
No, I would rather the SCOTUS interpret the 2nd from the original militia standpoint
Ohioboy
Dec 2023
#42
You need to read the Congressional record where they debated the 2nd Amendment
Ohioboy
Dec 2023
#404
Yes, a ban was done once, and allowed to expire, because it did little to nothing.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#398
Carry and concealment, yes. Purchase, very little (depends on type, of course).
yagotme
Dec 2023
#66
But, to buy ANY firearm at a store, you have to fill out a form, get it approved, etc. etc.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#248
Would that include the right to live? It seems a lot of gun crazies have no problem with eliminating that right.
NNadir
Dec 2023
#367
Well, historically there were people who claimed a right to own human beings. It was constitutionally protected.
NNadir
Dec 2023
#382
Sorry, but I'm not prone to using sarcasm emojis. I have no idea what was going through the mind of that asshole...
NNadir
Dec 2023
#403
Well, I took your post to be serious, so perhaps an emoji would help some of us out
yagotme
Dec 2023
#406
Yes because a few football riots are equivalent to a chronic epidemic of mass shootings.
Voltaire2
Dec 2023
#361
Yes, and the fans sometimes go out in public afterwards, assault people, damage property, spread a lot of litter, etc.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#362
Ordinarily, I wouldn't object. However, with the threat of open Fascism looming, and the proliferation of white
Firestorm49
Dec 2023
#79
Yes. Not in the 70s or 80s, but I would have never imagined where we are at. n/t
brewens
Dec 2023
#92
I would just like it to be interpreted correctly then removal is unnecessary. nt
GuppyGal
Dec 2023
#99
No, because all the others except the first would have to be renumbered, causing great confusion and cost.
usonian
Dec 2023
#103
If the SC simply put the first sentence into perspective, and context of the time, the amendment could stand.
Chainfire
Dec 2023
#112
The first sentence in a paragraph tells you what the rest of the paragraph is about.
Chainfire
Dec 2023
#147
So, in ignoring my question, I'm to take it that you see "the people" in the 2d,
yagotme
Dec 2023
#167
Agreed. It's the height of intellectual dishonesty for gun control advocates to claim the 2nd Amendment isn't about an
Midwestern Democrat
Dec 2023
#170
The vast number of shootings of people are done by people with handguns, not rifles.
MichMan
Dec 2023
#135
"Military assault rifles" were a requirement for a militia member at that time.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#193
Yeah that is up there with "I've never needed seatbelts" or a fire extinguisher as proof of anything
EX500rider
Dec 2023
#183
Repealing the second amendment would make the country a far safer place............also:
Stuart G
Dec 2023
#318
Sure, as long as it's understood that we'd lose for the next twenty years.
Elessar Zappa
Dec 2023
#136
Sure. What kind of question is that? It has come to reinforce a streak of sheer madness in our national psyche.
Hekate
Dec 2023
#141
Yes, or least, adding another amendment that clearly allows for regulation
In It to Win It
Dec 2023
#154
i would rather have them read the whole thing in total and expanded to ban war weapons .
AllaN01Bear
Dec 2023
#189
You know, when the 2d was written, it was meant for the militia to be REQUIRED
yagotme
Dec 2023
#192
Because the issue of repealing the amendment has never been the focus of the debate. Certainly, I would if I had a
CTyankee
Dec 2023
#405
In a perfect world yes, but currently it would be a loosing issue and might cause 10,000 Ruby Ridges. nt
Quixote1818
Dec 2023
#241
No, I love shooting pigeons and targets plus I have dangerous wildlife around my home and I know lots of hunters
MistakenLamb
Dec 2023
#244
I mention computers as falling under the 1st Amendment, and you come back with 2020 election.
yagotme
Dec 2023
#332
I never said compters had anything to do with firearms. What's written on them...
brush
Dec 2023
#348
THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POINT IN THIS DISCUSSION IS WHAT NIYAD POSTED... IT IS POSTED BELOW:
Stuart G
Dec 2023
#286
It doesn't matter what we are in favor of; the 2nd Amendment (which has 2 Ns, not 3)
Ocelot II
Dec 2023
#317
And again, I say Yes. This is madness. This contributes to our unacknowledged civil war.
Hekate
Dec 2023
#325
It's the people with arsenals against all the rest of us. From babies in preschools to old people dancing...
Hekate
Dec 2023
#339
Do you feel you need an arsenal? In case of need are you planning to arm your friends & neighbors?
Hekate
Dec 2023
#344
I would. Gun ownership is not a right...SCOTUS got it wrong...a well armed militia is
Demsrule86
Dec 2023
#335
I would. Gun ownership is not a right...SCOTUS got it wrong...a well armed militia is
Demsrule86
Dec 2023
#336
You asked in good faith, I believe, but -- ah well, deletion of this post is my friend
Hekate
Dec 2023
#345