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freshwest

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27. North Dakota went for Mittens, check. Protecting his own supporters, not other states?

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:37 PM

Nov 2012

He's wrong, there is no moral reason to do what he's proposing, but he has sufficient support to get in office. He should be ignored, but it's not going to be easy. It'd be better if he was GOP and not allowed to pollute the Democratic Caucus. The AFL-CIO has plenty to say on Social Security. These are the arguments that need to be used:

http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Retirement-Security/What-Is-Social-Security

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Democratic Senator Kent Conrad Says Raising Medicare Age, Cutting Benefits Is ‘Balanced And Fair’ [View all] Report1212 Nov 2012 OP

Chris Van Hollen also Enrique Nov 2012 #1

The Closet GOP Caucus nt Report1212 Nov 2012 #3

It is time to cut pension and health benefits for congress Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #2

I agree let's cut their earned benefits first Johonny Nov 2012 #19

Too many are too rich to care. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #48

B-b-but . . . Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #4

Agree. lalalu Nov 2012 #14

I have no doubt some will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. mmonk Nov 2012 #5

I think that time will be sooner rather than later Oilwellian Nov 2012 #17

Agreed and will. mmonk Nov 2012 #23

Leave Medicare alone... KansDem Nov 2012 #6

"fair and balanced" datasuspect Nov 2012 #7

This Turd is On His Way Out, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #8

Obama himself said SS needs to be tweaked like under Reagan. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #9

I don't care what he calls himself, he's NO Democrat hobbit709 Nov 2012 #10

Fuck you, Kent Fucking Conrad! You DINO piece of shit. nt valerief Nov 2012 #11

NO WAY. NO HOW. Dems give this up now before you lose the people like the repukes have. on point Nov 2012 #12

No wonder he didn't run for re-election, he's not in the party anymore. Coyotl Nov 2012 #13

She was on Ed's show last night. He asked who she was most like and guess who she said. forestpath Nov 2012 #29

That's what I thought also.....he's done in January isn't he? a kennedy Nov 2012 #32

Who cares? He's gone and ProSense Nov 2012 #15

It matters if they reach a deal before 2013 Report1212 Nov 2012 #18

They won't ProSense Nov 2012 #20

Another thing: ProSense Nov 2012 #24

That's not how it works Report1212 Nov 2012 #28

"They don't just do what Obama says." ProSense Nov 2012 #30

thank god he will be gone shortly argiel1234 Nov 2012 #42

This is exactly what is going to happen. lalalu Nov 2012 #16

Wait a second! Let me get my head out of the sand! kentuck Nov 2012 #21

We should be going in the opposite direction. Kalidurga Nov 2012 #22

+1 area51 Nov 2012 #73

Hate to say I told you so, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #25

Say it. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #33

Anybody who thinks it is "balanced and fair" to make seniors and the most vulnerable forestpath Nov 2012 #26

North Dakota went for Mittens, check. Protecting his own supporters, not other states? freshwest Nov 2012 #27

Yes, but they gave us Heidi Heitcamp Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #35

Great news, hadn't heard of her yet... He needs a time out, though. freshwest Nov 2012 #50

I think she was their AG Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #64

And that she influences her colleague to get back on the path! freshwest Nov 2012 #65

He's about to retire Report1212 Nov 2012 #67

When does he go? Hope to get a more progressive person in place. freshwest Nov 2012 #68

He leaves Jan 2013 Report1212 Nov 2012 #69

Ah, no. It gets worse, then. We'll miss him then. freshwest Nov 2012 #70

no votes on any changes until the new congress is sworn in and parasite Conrad is out. He has msongs Nov 2012 #31

Half of DU will cheer when Obama signs to increase the Medicare age. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #34

I don't think so, unless all the PRogressive Dems leave, which sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #38

i dunno about half, but the bigmouths will, most def. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #40

At least 227, by latest count. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #46

I suffered mightily from 60 till 65. They were very long years. juajen Nov 2012 #66

Eliminate congressional pensions. That is "balanced and fair". Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #36

No need for him to be boxed in. This is a Democrat, he is the leader sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #37

i suggest that paying kent conrad minimum wage/no bennies is also fair, because he's obviously HiPointDem Nov 2012 #39

so he tells them what poison pill he'll accept without knowing what he'll get for accepting it? CreekDog Nov 2012 #41

I'm fine with this, so long as the other centrists are. n/t Dr Fate Nov 2012 #43

Huh? nt Report1212 Nov 2012 #47

The Republicans should be running away as far they can from that idea. Cleita Nov 2012 #44

don't cha love it when democrats spew republican ideologies? fuck these assholes. spanone Nov 2012 #45

...and so it begins. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #49

He is leaving anyway, but i hope this is not the opinion of other democratic senators. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #51

Maybe to corporations, but not to the majority of voters Mr. "CON"radical. louslobbs Nov 2012 #52

This is why we can't make progress. We just pushed back the GOP only now to SDjack Nov 2012 #53

Fight'n Harry Reid will put the Blue Dogs in their places, like he always does. Dr Fate Nov 2012 #59

Chuckles the pragmatic sensible moderate centrist woodchuck agrees with Senator Conrad Fumesucker Nov 2012 #54

Stop the Third Way! Zorra Nov 2012 #55

When Blue Dogs get to Washington they should be treated like dogs n/t Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #56

Conrad is one of those who adopted Third Way principles of the Democratic Leadership Council AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #57

I'm glad that President Obama and Senator Conrad agree on this very important issue MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #58

Go Fuck Yourself RagAss Nov 2012 #60

Keep the retirement age/benefits as is (adjusted for inflation, of course) Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #61

K&R theaocp Nov 2012 #62

fair includes tar and feathers and confiscation roguevalley Nov 2012 #63

It's "balanced and fair" fucking MASS MURDER, is what it is eridani Nov 2012 #71

Kent's been watching Faux noise too much n/t unhappycamper Nov 2012 #72