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Jedi Guy

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46. The issue isn't that it's not taught in school.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:24 PM
Nov 2022

The issue is that many people think of politics as boring, stodgy, dorky stuff that doesn't really impact their daily lives in any meaningful way. The vast majority of high school graduates in this country learn civics for at least a semester. However, when I say "learn" what I mean is they retain the information long enough to pass the test (more on that below) and then the information dribbles out of their ears.

That lack of realization of the vital importance of politics is why so many Americans can't accurately describe what kind of government we have, let alone the minutiae of how it works and what it really does. Those of us here on DU are the exception, not the rule. Most of our fellow Americans follow politics in the run up to an election and ignore it most of the rest of the time.

As for critical thinking, honors and AP classes teach that sort of thing, yes. They also do the mock UN or other debate-focused activities that teach and encourage reasoned, logical argument. For the non-advanced classes, not so much. Their focus is on memorization and regurgitation. Cram the facts and dates and figures in there and forget them the instant the final exam is done.

I can't speak to what high school sports is up to since I was a dork all the way through school. Football was next door to religion where I grew up, and our football players strutted around the school like lords even though they didn't win a single game for my entire high school career. There were a few who were quite smart, but the rest were the stereotypical jocks with rocks between their ears.

What kind of an education do kids get Diamond_Dog Nov 2022 #1
It's all part of Rupert Murdoch's master plan to destroy public education. Initech Nov 2022 #7
Civics classes are not cut Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #40
The failure in public education was illustrated in a lecture that I attended many years ago. Chainfire Nov 2022 #2
Some here believe what they read on Twitter Kaleva Nov 2022 #12
If you can wrap something in confirmation of what someone wants to hear Sympthsical Nov 2022 #37
I don't think our public education is amazing, but I disagree ColinC Nov 2022 #3
I have a TV and a radio in my car vlyons Nov 2022 #4
All of these things are major factors of course ColinC Nov 2022 #13
Why is it that ... Xoan Nov 2022 #6
Because fake news may fit a preferred narrative ColinC Nov 2022 #10
Thankyou. We allow money in elections, and the media get rich on the big lies. lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #38
The media goes where the audience is Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #41
Unfortunately newspapers are few and far between ColinC Nov 2022 #47
No, there is something else going on Cartoonist Nov 2022 #5
This is a good example - the difference between you and your brother FakeNoose Nov 2022 #11
My question is why all of a sudden. Cartoonist Nov 2022 #25
A literate, educated and critically thinking populace is ... Whiskeytide Nov 2022 #8
Doesn't explain why seniors tend to vote Republican Kaleva Nov 2022 #9
The Seniors RobinA Nov 2022 #15
None of the seniors I know vote Republican. nt leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #21
Reminds me of the " Everyone I know voted for Carter" arguement back in 1980 Kaleva Nov 2022 #26
Anecdote isn't data. Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #42
It's a fact that the seniors I know are Democrats leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #50
There is no national curriculum. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #14
They may not be national Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #43
It's one thing to teach them, but watching treestar Nov 2022 #16
It points to a failure of moronic parents who thought Civics classes were boring & demanded ... Hekate Nov 2022 #17
Civics is taught in school Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #44
In Texas, ISDs are funded thru property taxes, which are very high vlyons Nov 2022 #18
It is the result of the 60 year war against public education Zorro Nov 2022 #19
Alas the established Christian Church is based on blind faith vlyons Nov 2022 #22
Yeah--so much tolerance Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #45
So true Mysterian Nov 2022 #20
How long before they enable themseles to steal all your assets vlyons Nov 2022 #23
I was in school during '50s and '60s. It was different. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #24
One didn't dare question what was taught by the teachers Kaleva Nov 2022 #28
We didn't dare question what our parents said, either. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #29
Yes. I'd rather live today then go back to how it was. Kaleva Nov 2022 #30
I was in school during the 60s and 70s Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #49
Back in the day, teachers could use physical violence against students Kaleva Nov 2022 #27
Our teachers weren't physucally violent. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #31
I had one teacher who'd grab us by the hair and lift us out of our seat. Kaleva Nov 2022 #33
Wow!. Most kids just didn't act up. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #35
Had a teacher who used to tap her very long nails Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #51
Humans are mean. Period. KentuckyWoman Nov 2022 #32
I remember the older boys making us younger boys fight each other Kaleva Nov 2022 #34
There was some pretty bad stuff that went on after school. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #36
Yes they do teach civics. Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #39
The issue isn't that it's not taught in school. Jedi Guy Nov 2022 #46
The AP kids aren't all that much better about retention Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #52
I suppose I should've clarified that my school experience was more than 20 years ago. Jedi Guy Nov 2022 #53
All of this "In my day" yap GenThePerservering Nov 2022 #48
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