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freshwest

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183. Being carried on other websites, and not just the USA Today reporter, but NYT:

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:43 PM

Nov 2012

People Literally Held Hostage At Romney Rally, Despite Complaints Of Frostbite

Is this really happening? Last night, three reporters from three different major U.S. news outlets tweeted that attendees of a Romney rally were prevented from leaving, causing people to push through barricades:

From a USA Today reporter:

There are several people here at Pa. rally who want to leave and aren’t being let out. — Jackie Kucinich (@JFKucinich)

That is cited in the OP., as well as this at the same link:

From a New York Times reporter:

“We’ve got to get out! My daughter is frostbitten,” begs mom, asking to leave Romney rally. Staffer replies: “It’s not cold enuf for that.”

— Michael Barbaro (@mikiebarb) November 4, 2012

What is not in the OP is here:

From a CBS News reporter:

As @mittromney speaks, many people- cold, old, w/children… All rushing out of barricades, right by press riser — Sarah Boxer (@Sarah_Boxer) November 5, 2012

...In less than 2 days, our next president will be decided. On one side, we have a proven incumbent with nothing to hide. On the other, we have millionaire tax dodger Mitt Romney, who not only thinks 47% of Americans are victims, but also is riding on the crest of the biggest election spending tsunami in history. And Sheldon Adelson, the biggest donor to the biggest conservative SuperPAC, is the man who might ultimately decide the election …

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/04/people-held-hostage-at-romney-rally/

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Romney staff refusing to let frostbitten children leave PA rally (UPDATED) [View all] RandySF Nov 2012 OP

This can't be true, can it? meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #1

What was it donnasgirl Nov 2012 #54

The twitter name is Jackie Kucinich? Isn't that a rather unusual name? Would like to see more... freshwest Nov 2012 #119

Dennis Kucinich's daughter, Jackie, is a reporter with USA Today. A good one, at that. TahitiNut Nov 2012 #126

I believe it, then. I love Dennis. We need to get this going by kicking, whatever! Thanks. freshwest Nov 2012 #130

I miss Dennis. KamaAina Nov 2012 #208

Easy answer, the corporate media refuses to listen to him. I met him, was very impressed. freshwest Nov 2012 #210

Where is the Ryan video of which you speak? I'd like to see that. cui bono Nov 2012 #157

I'll look for it and post it here for you. Disturbing thing. freshwest Nov 2012 #161

Paul Ryan Cracks Joke As 71 Year-Old Citizen Is Forced To The Ground (VIDEOS) freshwest Nov 2012 #169

Good god. I hope a really GOOD lawyer Care Acutely Nov 2012 #177

Check below. There's more. And I'll be posting from the link on how this story in PA is taking off. freshwest Nov 2012 #180

Another video from the same link: freshwest Nov 2012 #179

Thanks for posting. How do these thugs have anyone on their side at all cui bono Nov 2012 #189

There are vicious people in communities that support this. Having had to deal with some of these freshwest Nov 2012 #190

Links aren't working. Were they taken down? calimary Nov 2012 #213

No, they are working. Are you seeing the box with the exclaimation point? freshwest Nov 2012 #220

Being carried on other websites, and not just the USA Today reporter, but NYT: freshwest Nov 2012 #183

Illegal imprisonment Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #2

Really MissDeeds Nov 2012 #63

the Jim Jones approach K-Matt Nov 2012 #166

felony under § 2902 jeffsainio Nov 2012 #224

If they willingly went to a Rmoney event, central scrutinizer Nov 2012 #90

They are getting a taste of what they are voting for AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #131

+1 freshwest Nov 2012 #137

Hopefully a LOT of folks there just had an epiphany about who to vote for. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #171

+47 BREMPRO Nov 2012 #195

Well that's a guarantee to win their hearts, minds, and a vote... Kalidurga Nov 2012 #3

Seriously, you would think that zbdent Nov 2012 #4

Naw,...that costs money.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #43

Easy peachy and I would have done it already nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #5

Good point. ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #18

yup. mopinko Nov 2012 #134

How long until they whip out the fire hoses and start spraying the crowd? n/t durablend Nov 2012 #6

Forget frostbite...is holding people against their will is legal in PA? HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #7

it sounds like the definition of False Arrest, iirc eShirl Nov 2012 #75

They should make a run for it anyway. LisaL Nov 2012 #8

Is this a political rally or a prison camp? ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #9

I would ask him for his name and position Ilsa Nov 2012 #10

I think it's a security issue. DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #11

No it's not a security issue.............. mrmpa Nov 2012 #57

I'm sorry that happened to you. People do a lot of stupid things. yardwork Nov 2012 #64

Thank you.......... mrmpa Nov 2012 #187

Anything that coerces or controls people is counter-productive. yardwork Nov 2012 #216

There have been reports in the media... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #147

Could be, but am guessing it has more to do with the very bad PR received salin Nov 2012 #66

That sounds typical of Romney. yardwork Nov 2012 #67

Good points... DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #72

Lots of people left the Westchester Romney rally after Kid Rock performed and before Romney spoke.nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #112

Can't be.. there is fire code.. SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #217

I'd call the cops Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #12

It certainly is, I think in all 50 states. Something called kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #25

Kidnapping. WheelWalker Nov 2012 #113

Yup. TahitiNut Nov 2012 #128

Agreed! nt avebury Nov 2012 #49

Nah, remember EST? Warpy Nov 2012 #215

can these bastards be brought up on child abuse charges? niyad Nov 2012 #13

Watching it on cspan. people leaving with kids bundled up in blankets sammytko Nov 2012 #14

link? barnabas63 Nov 2012 #23

Here's a snippet ejbr Nov 2012 #41

LOL!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #48

Well, if you don't ask ejbr Nov 2012 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author crunch60 Nov 2012 #108

Romney and Queen Ann have their own "Pope mobile" they are crunch60 Nov 2012 #132

Holy crap! beac Nov 2012 #102

Wait, am I hearing boos?? MgtPA Nov 2012 #105

I heard them too when the Queen was speaking. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2012 #111

LOL! MgtPA Nov 2012 #118

I think some are yelling "Show us your BOObs!" TahitiNut Nov 2012 #135

They must have imported some guys from Philly MgtPA Nov 2012 #154

They did NOT use that music did they? OMG talk about drama queens Bwahahahaha nc4bo Nov 2012 #124

the booer got close enough yo the mics SmileyRose Nov 2012 #181

Sounded to me like there was a whole group of booers MgtPA Nov 2012 #186

What was with the triumphant fanfare music? frogmarch Nov 2012 #205

I was watching it on satellite CSPAN1 - road to the white house sammytko Nov 2012 #45

If you look behind Mittens--at the beginning of that speech, then fast forward... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #155

Yeah! You can see it thinning out if you just jump forward a few minutes at a time. cui bono Nov 2012 #164

They should call 911 - Romney needs a captive audience. Historic NY Nov 2012 #15

have they brought out the brown shirts and dogs yet? nt hockeynut57 Nov 2012 #16

Now THAT is funny! GitRDun Nov 2012 #30

If he gets elected, that's just what we'll be seeing. nt crunch60 Nov 2012 #138

Hmmm ... Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #17

next tweet OKNancy Nov 2012 #19

What security concerns could they have? Spazito Nov 2012 #31

Security? Nonsense. When people leave an event you have fewer security problems, not more. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #114

WTH are they even do in PA? Cha Nov 2012 #20

Giving a speech that says speeches don't matter. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #55

Gotta look good for the cameras. Can't have people leaving after AllyCat Nov 2012 #21

It's not cold enough for them to have frostbite gristy Nov 2012 #22

From hypocrite to hypothermia Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #24

Are we surprised that people who would bring their children to a Romney rally are hysterical liars? yardwork Nov 2012 #36

Are you saying it's not "LEGITIMATE frostbite"?? TahitiNut Nov 2012 #140

! Barack_America Nov 2012 #141

Folks get fussy about causes of necrosis ... TahitiNut Nov 2012 #206

**snort** bluesbassman Nov 2012 #149

I just hope they are all right animalcrackers Nov 2012 #26

hahaha! cui bono Nov 2012 #165

Are these guys rallygoers, or hostages? meow2u3 Nov 2012 #27

And those people are still going to vote for Romney? How dense can a person be? nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #28

Well, call the police and lodge a complaint, FCS! Coyotl Nov 2012 #29

It shows clearly what the Republicans think of "the masses" jimlup Nov 2012 #32

Wonder how many people will decide not to vote for him? nt justiceischeap Nov 2012 #33

OJ went to prison for such behavior. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #34

wtf? fishwax Nov 2012 #35

Way to win votes Mitt! BootinUp Nov 2012 #37

If this was an Obama rally, the wingnuts would be saying we are getting what we deserve proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #38

They sure know how to keep it classy huh? rbrnmw Nov 2012 #39

It's illegal to hold people against their will. berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #40

Pharoah! Pharoah! Let my people go! Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #42

Dang he has a sexy singing voice. psychmommy Nov 2012 #136

He was a great human being.... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #143

Is it not more of a security concern if they stay and are agitated? littlemissmartypants Nov 2012 #44

Remember to tell your friends & neighbors lady Care Acutely Nov 2012 #77

What in the name of hell is going on at that event???? nc4bo Nov 2012 #46

Must not have people leave, would look bad on camera. nt Raine Nov 2012 #47

Frostbite? It's 43! Toughen up, cupcake! Brickbat Nov 2012 #50

the frostbite may have been hyperbole BUT if there is wind chills.. maybe. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #89

Obama needs to send in Seal Team 6 rightsideout Nov 2012 #51

LOL ywcachieve Nov 2012 #129

Where the hell is swat when ya need em.. crunch60 Nov 2012 #145

Now that's the guy we want in charge of FEMA. grantcart Nov 2012 #52

HELP!!! were being held Hostage at a Romney rally!!!! MFM008 Nov 2012 #53

Faux headline will be rbrnmw Nov 2012 #62

+ 1000! nt Mc Mike Nov 2012 #80

Sad, but true, malachi Nov 2012 #200

Think you can file kidnapping charges against them if they prevent you crunch60 Nov 2012 #58

I would call the police. Then I would lay the guy out on the ground. grantcart Nov 2012 #59

This better be on every network. silverweb Nov 2012 #60

All they want is the photo op. defacto7 Nov 2012 #61

Are you fucking kidding me ?!? The Old Creak Nov 2012 #65

I'm sending this to the ACLU right now zentrum Nov 2012 #68

Lots of people at the end waving flags and cheering too. kerouac2 Nov 2012 #69

people leaving in droves while he's talking.. angry and cold, according to people there. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #175

I had a college friend who was there Patiod Nov 2012 #198

Whoa! Texasgal Nov 2012 #70

This story needs to get to our friends at MSNBC awake Nov 2012 #71

Weather channel says it low 40s in Morrisville, PA now. Could have hypothermia but probably not pam4water Nov 2012 #73

"No one shall leave until fearless leader has spoken!" Javaman Nov 2012 #74

Makes sense. He's the Koches' man. Fred Koch was a friend of Stalin and Mussolini. Seig Heil! freshwest Nov 2012 #150

i really doubt this is a true story... madrchsod Nov 2012 #76

me too. cali Nov 2012 #79

Really? IMHO, Jackie Kucinich is a pretty credible source. blue neen Nov 2012 #158

"It's being reported that Romney staffers are refusing to allow....." That's true. brewens Nov 2012 #99

Hard to believe that the Romney campaign could be that stupid . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #78

I believe it. Bet that they are BEHIND Romney or on camera. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #81

Upthread, it says Jackie Kucinch, DK's daughter, a USA Today reporter, made the tweets. freshwest Nov 2012 #153

Yeah sorry. It is not that cold in PA tonight. MadrasT Nov 2012 #82

Cold is up to the beholder, esp. if not dressed for the weather. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #92

Plus kids are way more susceptible to cold weather. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #95

Too cold for kids, if not dressed properly, sure. MadrasT Nov 2012 #97

It's 37 in Pittsburgh. You want to tell me that it's okay for a kid to be in that for hours?? progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #93

I said nothing of the sort. MadrasT Nov 2012 #98

What part of Pennsylvania are you in? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #101

It doesn't matter if the kids were frostbit or the parents were exagerating Chemisse Nov 2012 #104

Exactly! Barack_America Nov 2012 #144

with wind chill it feels like 36 grantcart Nov 2012 #152

The final act of desperation. SCVDem Nov 2012 #83

Give Mitt a break... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #159

Is this like some sort of nutty EST meeting from the 70s? Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #84

This is just another example of how Romney and his drlindaphd Nov 2012 #85

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #86

Someone just tweeted: "Well, it looks like the sufrommich Nov 2012 #87

Somebody call Fox and make it Obama's fault! Wait, Romney is in charee... Never mind. freshwest Nov 2012 #191

Welcome to the Hotel Romney. "you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave." adirondacker Nov 2012 #88

LOL! That cracked me up, and welcome to DU!! eqfan592 Nov 2012 #91

Thanks. I'm not "new" here, but have been on a long sabbatical from posting. adirondacker Nov 2012 #125

LOL !!! - Good One !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #123

"Etcha Sketchs on the ceiling... KurtNYC Nov 2012 #199

OMG MissNostalgia Nov 2012 #94

It might be cold but it is 40 degrees there right now Botany Nov 2012 #96

Someone should counsel her humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #100

If this is true, I bet it's in response to the news that people were streaming out of the last rally Chemisse Nov 2012 #103

Seriously, why would they care if they leave?? CNN/Faux isn't going to report that the masses are CAG Nov 2012 #106

If there are enough people there, they should provide warmth. wisteria Nov 2012 #107

Poor kids! ivanincali00 Nov 2012 #109

I doubt the staff was preventing people from leaving unless OhioBlue Nov 2012 #110

On CSpan now, Mittens and Queen Ann.. cheriemedium59 Nov 2012 #115

Ignorant Parents.... Iggy Nov 2012 #116

Their stupidity is astounding. They Ilsa Nov 2012 #151

Obviously God INTENDED for them to get frostbite PossumSqueezins Nov 2012 #117

You know if it's legitimate frostbite... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #160

30,000 Romney Rally attendees quite pissed off! zwyziec Nov 2012 #120

Great Idea! chuckstevens Nov 2012 #121

Mittens was running late today and was an hour late to this event. Jennicut Nov 2012 #122

Send USA Today your story of how you have been imprisoned Democratopia Nov 2012 #127

Wow!!! skeewee08 Nov 2012 #133

Here's what Jonathan Capehart tweeted: ailsagirl Nov 2012 #139

Once a d***, always a d*** codjh9 Nov 2012 #142

If this is true, it sounds like their reaction to reports of people leaving during previous rallies Matariki Nov 2012 #146

If your child gets pneumonia at a Romney rally, don't worry. Obamacare covers that. PATXgirl Nov 2012 #148

fantastic way to win their hearts and minds bodudedem2959_lib Nov 2012 #156

He might also win some fingertips and noses that way too. ck4829 Nov 2012 #203

Who would have thought... Pilotguy Nov 2012 #162

Why are these idiots taking their kids to a political rally in freezing cold weather? cherish44 Nov 2012 #163

This is desperation on the part of Romney. drm604 Nov 2012 #167

If he was going to have a useless rally in a state he can't win and be late... cui bono Nov 2012 #168

Republican family values Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #170

Ha ha! Sad but true. As someone said a few years ago, ... codjh9 Nov 2012 #172

I have just heard an official explanation why people were not allowed to leave Democratopia Nov 2012 #173

from various twitter feeds.. Romney still talking, people leaving in droves ANGRY and Cold.. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #174

Graphic I just did to commemorate this event.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #176

Imagine what a Mitt Romney Presidency would be like! UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #178

Don't Let The Serfs Out! AnnieBW Nov 2012 #182

Link doesn't work for me. intheflow Nov 2012 #184

I'm skeptical SmileyRose Nov 2012 #185

I read on USA Today's website Tumbulu Nov 2012 #188

Shit, I would have a (fake) seizure............ kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #192

If someone is at a Romney rally, chances are that voter leans toward him in the election. tblue37 Nov 2012 #193

That is amazing. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #194

Frostbite that can annoy an adult can damage for a child rocktivity Nov 2012 #196

That tape of that fella with Ryan NEEDS TO GO VIRAL!!!!!!!!!! My God look onecent Nov 2012 #197

AT 39 minute in Stephanie Mille & Rude Pundit are laffing at Mitt....... kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #201

They aren't reairing Stephie today or tomorrow Liberalynn Nov 2012 #211

Archive.org has a Steph archive BUT........ kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #223

Welcome to Romneymerica! ck4829 Nov 2012 #202

And that my friends, is how Romney will treat the workers (and future workers) of america. Crowman1979 Nov 2012 #204

If this is true, it's kidnapping - they should have called the police and had those guys arrested! George II Nov 2012 #207

if we didn't have child labor laws Enrique Nov 2012 #209

Honestly, isn't this like hiking into Iran and then bitching when they detain you? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #212

Yup... While I find the whole thing amusing, SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #218

They are treating their sheep like sheep. oldbanjo Nov 2012 #214

Sounds like hell freezes over at Romney event randr Nov 2012 #219

Nothing surprises me with Romney or his staff lupojohn Nov 2012 #221

hmmm. I make fun of people who believe everything they hear on Fox. RitchieRich Nov 2012 #222