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41. yeah - while is has fuel...

Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:44 AM

Jul 2022

and I know the rich have gobs of money to buy fuel... but supply chain disruptions, wars, having to pay and deal with the black market to get it (like in war time) makes it a risky business to be floating w/o fuel while a storm bears down.

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Climate scientist claims it's too late [View all] Kaleva Jul 2022 OP

We are to the point of exponential change. bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #1

If we had started when Jimmy Carter was President as he tried to get us to do, things would be Samrob Jul 2022 #66

If we had put Al Gore at the top of the ticket in 92 instead of Bill Clinton milestogo Jul 2022 #68

Yes he was, But nothing Clinton did stood in his way. Samrob Jul 2022 #71

I'm not blaming Clinton milestogo Jul 2022 #72

As a millenial I am quite angry and feel like the older generations sold us out DSandra Aug 2022 #134

We have known for 150 + years that the more CO2 in a body of gas the more heat that body will hold.. Botany Jul 2022 #2

This will sink like a rock Brenda Jul 2022 #3

I disagree BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #54

While this OP/thread H2O Man Jul 2022 #63

As well it should. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #65

One of the things H2O Man Jul 2022 #67

Glad to see this thread is not sinking Brenda Jul 2022 #87

Scariest aspect: ensuing mob/gang mentality in the war of survival Auggie Jul 2022 #4

Mad Maga Max nt Brenda Jul 2022 #5

+1 H2O Man Jul 2022 #64

Those living in caves with oxygen tanks survive bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #7

For the very wealthy, "superyacht" condos: Auggie Jul 2022 #16

So is piracy. Nowhere will be safe. /nt localroger Jul 2022 #18

Yep... FalloutShelter Jul 2022 #34

They'll have their own navy for defense Auggie Jul 2022 #36

The seas are the worst place to be Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #27

Indeed... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #33

I disagree Auggie Jul 2022 #37

yeah - while is has fuel... Locrian Jul 2022 #41

It seems inevitable that a certain class of people will be targets... rubbersole Jul 2022 #44

yes Locrian Jul 2022 #84

Just looking at your first paragraph, Delphinus Jul 2022 #92

Most refineries are near coastlines and will be unusable Ponietz Jul 2022 #75

Sails and solar. Don't judge superyachts of today by superyachts of tomorrow. Auggie Jul 2022 #79

maybe, going to need to improve a LOT ... Locrian Jul 2022 #82

It also needs supplies and parts for maintenance dalton99a Jul 2022 #57

Only if you can get out of the path of the storm Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #94

...and no space at the safe harbors. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #42

Werewolf Preppers may be a problem. Kaleva Jul 2022 #73

Scariest of all Auggie Jul 2022 #80

time to stop beating around the bush and go all out nuke power, as much as possible Celerity Jul 2022 #6

+1. A sea change in attitude is needed among environmentalists and the general public dalton99a Jul 2022 #12

We just haven't quite got the hang of cleaning up after them though. Lochloosa Jul 2022 #25

Nuke power????? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #32

the next gen ones are shedloads safer, and we are going to have no choice, the EROI on renewables Celerity Jul 2022 #35

Perhaps Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #104

Evidence of potential giant tornadoes and hurricanes? paleotn Jul 2022 #49

How do you think global warming works? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #103

.... paleotn Jul 2022 #106

Increased heat increases the energy of storms Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #108

Show me one peer reviewed paper paleotn Jul 2022 #112

Chernobyl literally took tank shells during the spring war offensive NickB79 Jul 2022 #50

Good to know about the shells dropped on Chernobyl Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #105

+1 gulliver Jul 2022 #61

I worry about the wild things. They will not be able leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #8

I think they will fare better than us. MiHale Jul 2022 #9

Actually... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #10

60 million years from now localroger Jul 2022 #19

Well, shit. Pretty hard to maintain optimism anymore. dameatball Jul 2022 #11

He isn't the only one sounding the alarm merrifield Jul 2022 #13

+1. In a mere five years from now: dalton99a Jul 2022 #15

He's not necessarily wrong, but should point out he's not a climatologist hatrack Jul 2022 #14

So what? I'm not a doctor but I figured out I was pre-diabetic all on my own. localroger Jul 2022 #20

So people should not visit doctors?? Nt USALiberal Jul 2022 #26

Why did you ask that question? jaxexpat Jul 2022 #46

It appears he's a volcanologist NickB79 Jul 2022 #51

We aren't doing enough AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #17

I'm very tempted to start prepping for climate change upheaval Amishman Jul 2022 #21

I've got many posts in the Frugal Living & Gardening groups detailing what I'm doing Kaleva Jul 2022 #28

Yeah, if I can keep my farm out of the hands of corporations, Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #38

LOL BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #90

Safer than New Orleans or tornado ally Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #109

Thanks for the personal attack Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #117

It's a personal attack? BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #118

No I just swatted away your silly little insults cause no one Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #126

Whoa. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #131

You got nothing better to do but insult me Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #125

Hi Rick BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #132

So what then? Suicide or join a post-apocalypic gang to survive? NickB79 Jul 2022 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #120

Hint Bannon will personally attack you Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #127

Hi Rick BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #130

My son-law has acquired 20 acres and my youngest step-son will soon get 20 acres Kaleva Jul 2022 #123

There will be no survival because you are a little better fixed than some others. Chainfire Jul 2022 #52

Without gas, they won't get far. Kaleva Jul 2022 #88

Yeah sooooo? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #101

K & R...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #22

Missing Words robodruid1 Jul 2022 #23

He thinks it's too late for that. merrifield Jul 2022 #29

Unless he is saying "Game over man" robodruid1 Jul 2022 #43

Add in the loss of the Amazon rainforest for massive carbon release NickB79 Jul 2022 #55

Putting nukes in the paths of quarter globe sized hurricanes Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #39

Candles and reading by firelight then? paleotn Jul 2022 #48

Orrrrr better solar tech. Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #95

Not when it's cloudy, at night or during the Winter. paleotn Jul 2022 #99

You're confused about how solar works Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #91

So is insulting me and Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #129

It's got to be in the mix..... paleotn Jul 2022 #47

May very well be. Climatologists have been ultra conservative in their predictions paleotn Jul 2022 #24

This is what happens when you don't listen to scientists but Glaisne Jul 2022 #30

Story in the BBC Delphinus Jul 2022 #93

Thank you, Al Gore for warning us for decades about global warming and betsuni Jul 2022 #31

And yet, try to get people to embrace one of the only effective responses to this emergency: Ron Green Jul 2022 #40

You are 100% correct about de-growth. But it's too late now. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #74

Imagine a politician running on a political platform of "NO NEW CARS..." hunter Jul 2022 #85

Is anyone making plans? Marthe48 Jul 2022 #45

I am Kaleva Jul 2022 #53

Yep NickB79 Jul 2022 #60

I've had a plan for almost two decades. Lancero Jul 2022 #89

Grim Marthe48 Jul 2022 #98

I had a friend Marthe48 Jul 2022 #107

Those with adult kids and older grandkids may have a better chance of survival Kaleva Jul 2022 #113

It'll certainly help to cooperate Marthe48 Jul 2022 #124

Stuck in California for the near future Auggie Jul 2022 #96

Found a list of derecho events Marthe48 Jul 2022 #110

It should be known to future generations that capitalism caused this DSandra Aug 2022 #135

The oil companies just posted the biggest profits in their history. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #56

A couple of years back I read an interview Xavier Breath Jul 2022 #58

We can strive to adapt Kaleva Jul 2022 #62

True, we can strive to do a lot of things. Xavier Breath Jul 2022 #69

Those who can afford to survive may even prosper. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #59

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #70

It's been too late for years. sky_masterson Jul 2022 #76

Climate change is happening much faster then earlier predicted. Kaleva Jul 2022 #77

Fareed Zakaria wrote this piece 15 years ago Mosby Jul 2022 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Jul 2022 #81

Population crash in 3...2...1.... roamer65 Jul 2022 #83

I'm in the camp that the worst case scenario can still be avoided. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #86

I agree Kaleva Jul 2022 #100

Want to know who to blame? Thank Rupert Murdoch and 20+ years of climate science denial. Initech Jul 2022 #111

It will take over a thousand years for CO2 to naturally dissipate Kaleva Jul 2022 #114

Too late? Patton French Jul 2022 #115

We struggle to survive in the brave, new world Kaleva Jul 2022 #116

Best places to live Mosby Jul 2022 #122

Then we all die Meowmee Aug 2022 #133

Reminder to thank Big Oil and Big Coal and Big Paper and Plastic, on your way out? Brainfodder Jul 2022 #121