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Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #104)

Tue May 17, 2022, 01:25 PM

May 2022

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Blanket student loan forgiveness is redistributing wealth upward [View all] iemanja May 2022 OP

That means the majority of loans are in the lower half of income kcr May 2022 #1

That is false iemanja May 2022 #5

I'm sure this will get an unpopular reaction, FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #2

I agree 100%. calguy May 2022 #16

I kind of agree with the sentiment.... TheRealNorth May 2022 #30

Absolutely calguy May 2022 #57

We already have that, the IBR program Recursion May 2022 #58

Not all loans qualify TheRealNorth May 2022 #123

I worked my way through college manicdem May 2022 #129

Some forgiveness is fine Johnny2X2X May 2022 #3

Forgive it all, then... Bobstandard May 2022 #4

In other words, make the middle income American subsidized the privileged iemanja May 2022 #8

I beg to differ Bobstandard May 2022 #10

Then why isn't that the solution in European countries iemanja May 2022 #13

I find it possible to support situations that... Bobstandard May 2022 #20

Imagine inthewind21 May 2022 #25

Tell me where I have argued that? iemanja May 2022 #98

I'm not arguing for inaction iemanja May 2022 #28

The number of people with loans making hundreds of thousands a year is surely small. LonePirate May 2022 #36

The blanket student loan forgiveness argument iemanja May 2022 #95

Those loan repayment programs already exist (and have since the 70s) Ms. Toad May 2022 #96

Yes, I knew some did iemanja May 2022 #101

I was once married to a doctor - Ms. Toad May 2022 #104

That's great iemanja May 2022 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 2022 #80

Rolling back just one of the latest billionaire tax cuts would cover all outstanding debt. Doremus May 2022 #21

Yet there is no passable provision for rolling back those tax cuts iemanja May 2022 #32

We sold our house and moved to a less expensive place leftieNanner May 2022 #6

Yes, I think it probably is difficult iemanja May 2022 #11

I agree leftieNanner May 2022 #17

NO social program is "fair" to everyone. Can we please drop that silliness as a talking point? Thtwudbeme May 2022 #7

Can we stop giving more to the rich? Scrivener7 May 2022 #9

What level is rich for you? LonePirate May 2022 #39

If one makes 100K a year iemanja May 2022 #70

Depends on the metro where they live. LonePirate May 2022 #74

Most people in those metro areas iemanja May 2022 #76

A forgiveness amount in the low five figures seems most likely to me. LonePirate May 2022 #77

Define rich Thtwudbeme May 2022 #46

Librarians working outside of the corporate arena have always made little money. Scrivener7 May 2022 #52

I am a librarian- Thtwudbeme May 2022 #81

No. There isn't anything wrong with what I wrote. There were a number of paths Scrivener7 May 2022 #88

All my debts are paid, and I am financially fine. What you wrote is incredibly sad Thtwudbeme May 2022 #89

OK. So you're very sad for me. Have at it. But this is a discussion about Scrivener7 May 2022 #90

Read that again. I am NOT sad for YOU Thtwudbeme May 2022 #91

OK. Fine, but again, what is your point about the cost of living, the salary Scrivener7 May 2022 #93

I was using my job (pretty sure I know the salary ranges there) Thtwudbeme May 2022 #127

The median individual income in Atlanta is $36,465 Recursion May 2022 #62

Once you get into rent that high Thtwudbeme May 2022 #82

But most social programs are structured with the intention of being fair. Ms. Toad May 2022 #109

Use the leftover Covid $ for this, instead of police depts leftstreet May 2022 #12

What do you say about my point of redistributing wealth upward iemanja May 2022 #14

Everyone seems to be assiduously avoiding addressing that. Scrivener7 May 2022 #50

There is a very clear racial implication for student debt. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #15

Those with lower incomes iemanja May 2022 #19

Non-degree holders should get something too bucolic_frolic May 2022 #18

Yep- they should be paid a living wage. Thtwudbeme May 2022 #128

Meanwhile the super rich are laughing Jerry2144 May 2022 #22

So what? Because it redistributes wealth upward iemanja May 2022 #35

You just suggested trickle down economics is helpful economic plan Ms. Toad May 2022 #103

To an extent it is Jerry2144 May 2022 #115

So you are endorsing Reagan's trickle down economics. Ms. Toad May 2022 #119

Statistics don't lie. They'll tell whatever truth you want them to. walkingman May 2022 #23

That sounds like a good solution to me. nt iemanja May 2022 #67

If student debt is as bad as everyone says then ban it. former9thward May 2022 #24

I don't think tuition would drop iemanja May 2022 #69

Is there ANY path...ANY process...ANY structured way... ret5hd May 2022 #26

I'm not concerned with my own student loan payments iemanja May 2022 #40

So, short answer "no"? ret5hd May 2022 #79

The answer is not no iemanja May 2022 #92

How about a $10,000 cap on forgiveness? Omaha Steve May 2022 #27

President Biden campaigned on forgiving $10,000. Of student loans questionseverything May 2022 #42

He campaigned on signing a Congressional bill that does that Recursion May 2022 #45

If it depends on getting a bill through congress, we are screwed and it's silly to discuss questionseverything May 2022 #60

56% of student loan debt mcar May 2022 #29

Blanket student loan forgiveness is a political nuclear bomb that will destroy the Democratic party Recursion May 2022 #31

I agree completely. nt iemanja May 2022 #38

Like last election year's "Defund the Police" slogan that's rarely uttered since, & has been now... Budi May 2022 #43

Bingo (nt) Recursion May 2022 #44

Dime a dozen election year campaign sloganeering, to a targeted demographic. Budi May 2022 #54

Student loans wouldn't even be an issue if we did them through payroll deductions Recursion May 2022 #59

+1 betsuni May 2022 #65

So tax the rich. The issue isn't loan forgiveness being unfair; our taxation system is. nt Gore1FL May 2022 #33

Yet those demanding blanket forgiveness iemanja May 2022 #37

It is ultimately the right thing to do for the overall economy. Gore1FL May 2022 #41

Student loans are one of the few things clawing down the gap between non-college graduates Recursion May 2022 #48

I would think affordable college makes the gap inherently crossable. Gore1FL May 2022 #49

Forgiving student loans doesn't make college affordable Recursion May 2022 #51

I would assume we would keep doing it. Affordable college is the point. It's not a cash grab. nt Gore1FL May 2022 #53

... no. We would not "keep doing it" Recursion May 2022 #55

I don't see affordable college as a losing issue. I therefore reject the 20-year lock out argument. Gore1FL May 2022 #56

Stop. Making college affordable is a great idea Recursion May 2022 #61

If college was affordable their wouldn't be debt. Gore1FL May 2022 #63

Yes! iemanja May 2022 #66

"It doesn't fix the problem" was the reason given for not supporting betsuni May 2022 #68

It's an updated version of trickle down economics. Kaleva May 2022 #34

Its a demographically targeted campaign slogan. Budi May 2022 #47

I agree. brer cat May 2022 #64

K&R betsuni May 2022 #71

Guys, we let the Reagan zombie escape from his pyramid again Sympthsical May 2022 #72

The data is what is it iemanja May 2022 #110

The manipulation and framing of data certainly is Sympthsical May 2022 #112

If you have other data analysis to present iemanja May 2022 #114

Let me ask you this: Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #73

I'm in favor of forgiveness up to $15k iemanja May 2022 #75

What about graduate school? Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #83

What about it? iemanja May 2022 #111

I'm suggesting quite a few things. Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #131

Now you want us to pay for doctors? iemanja May 2022 #132

I just told you there is one pediatric cancer doctor for three counties in a remote region. Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #133

Paying back student loans is part of the bargain gulliver May 2022 #78

It would by disproportionately paid for by the wealthiest quintile actually. David__77 May 2022 #84

Is this a eulogy for the fairness of our current tax system? iemanja May 2022 #94

The rich have a great trick Johnny2X2X May 2022 #85

+10000000000000000 Celerity May 2022 #86

And I'm one of the people the op is talking about Johnny2X2X May 2022 #87

Funny, because people who earn above the median income iemanja May 2022 #97

Middle Class is defined as $52K to $156K Johnny2X2X May 2022 #102

defined by whom? iemanja May 2022 #107

The problem is that only 8% make that Johnny2X2X May 2022 #113

The uber concentration of wealth at the top does indeed iemanja May 2022 #116

How do you define rich? iemanja May 2022 #99

+1 leftstreet May 2022 #124

Cap forgiveness at the average amount for in-state tuition for a state school Politicub May 2022 #100

This is a good idea. I'd be for that. An undergraduate degree. Scrivener7 May 2022 #105

Thank you for documenting what I've been suggesting in these threads - Ms. Toad May 2022 #106

My question is what happens to future loans? madville May 2022 #117

Yes, and what about parents who have a college fund for their kids? They'd be stupid to use it for Alhena May 2022 #122

The problem with forgiving student debt is what about students starting college next year. asa4ever May 2022 #118

Isn't this making the perfect the enemy of the good? Politicub May 2022 #121

Do you mean publicly funded education? iemanja May 2022 #126

I am all for having free in-state public colleges and universities. asa4ever May 2022 #130

"My Great Grandma died in child birth" alphafemale May 2022 #120

Your comment iemanja May 2022 #125