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55. "Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the Ukrainians fight, arm them."

Mon Apr 18, 2022, 02:25 PM

Apr 2022

Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the Estonians fight, arm them.
Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the Lithuanians fight, arm them.
Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the Poles fight, arm them.
Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the Germans fight, arm them.
Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the French fight, arm them.

At what point is it our fight?

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Short of a nuclear weapon, what can Putin do to us??? He's got nuthin' right? [View all] WarGamer Apr 2022 OP

i would have thought the sanctions would have bankrupted putin by now. samsingh Apr 2022 #1

The sanctions aren't a short term solution. WarGamer Apr 2022 #3

Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #6

Yeah you're right 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #52

It's amazing what creative accounting can hide. Think Enron. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #8

I hear Pootin is going to demand the reinstatement 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #2

I hear the grey skin lizard people planted human seeds on Earth 8 million years ago. WarGamer Apr 2022 #4

I hear people believe that sanctions 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #22

Well, there is that and much, much more Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #5

I saw some guy on MSNBC advocating for a no-fly zone dismissing the fears of starting WWIII Midwestern Democrat Apr 2022 #59

Well said Zeitghost Apr 2022 #7

100%. nt WarGamer Apr 2022 #9

so what you are saying is that we should locate of their "boomer" subs and take them out lapfog_1 Apr 2022 #10

My guess is the latter. Clearly Russia can do anything they want because they can do things to us. ColinC Apr 2022 #11

It doesn't matter which country starts WWIII, everyone loses. marie999 Apr 2022 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #12

Few of those who want to go to war with Russia use the words "go to war with Russia". Mariana Apr 2022 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #18

If a NATO country is attacked we will certainly go to war with Russia. Mariana Apr 2022 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #20

Russia doesn't have hypersonic missiles Chuuku Davis Apr 2022 #13

? ColinC Apr 2022 #17

Yes Chuuku Davis Apr 2022 #24

Read WarGamer Apr 2022 #30

'If they had one that worked, they would have shown it.' - They have speak easy Apr 2022 #47

They are developing them... Happy Hoosier Apr 2022 #25

Come on guys... they just used one in Ukraine days ago... WarGamer Apr 2022 #29

Read reply to question ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #35

They have them - but they suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. harumph Apr 2022 #37

Yes, all missiles are hypersonic or near it Russia is literally just launching a missile from a ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #34

I worry about cyber-attacks Poiuyt Apr 2022 #14

Source? USALiberal Apr 2022 #21

Negative Chuuku Davis Apr 2022 #26

Our electric grids..water sources..communication towers.. Deuxcents Apr 2022 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #28

Truman.. SmallFry Apr 2022 #15

Caution is always advised.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2022 #23

And I would venture to say thar every Russian sub anywhere MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #31

Maybe... WarGamer Apr 2022 #32

Agreed. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #33

Arming them effectively does mean training them. speak easy Apr 2022 #48

Not maybe. Every US carrier group is escorted by at least one attack sub. Angleae Apr 2022 #54

"Bottom line, this isn't our fight. Let the Ukrainians fight, arm them." Angleae Apr 2022 #55

Refer to the North Atlantic Treaty, Article 5. Mariana Apr 2022 #58

I know what Article 5 is. marie999 Apr 2022 #67

National self-interest ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 2022 #71

It is our fight. Ukraine is a democracy invaded by a dictatorship. marie999 Apr 2022 #62

Russia does not have true hypersonic missiles, they're playing with words as usual. Every ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #36

40 cruise missiles sarisataka Apr 2022 #38

He doesn't need to fire a shot (GOP) Cosmocat Apr 2022 #39

Multiple EMP's Celerity Apr 2022 #40

My God... I am reading through your pdf, and this is deeply frightening... DemocraticPatriot Apr 2022 #43

I have heard more than one of the retired Generals say that Russia would have doc03 Apr 2022 #41

WOW! Willto Apr 2022 #42

Love your writing style! lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #56

Wrong!!! They're ten feet tall. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2022 #57

Navy has very sophisticated ECM systems & hypersonic missiles can't hit what they can't see. Kaleva Apr 2022 #44

Supposedly - all our anti-missle warning systems might not see hypersonic weapons womanofthehills Apr 2022 #60

Smallpox berniesandersmittens Apr 2022 #45

If Russia tried to infect us with small pox Buckeyeblue Apr 2022 #46

I believe the US stopped routine smallpox vaxx in 1971 womanofthehills Apr 2022 #61

Ultimately this is the existential decision countries have to make when they enter into a conflict Buckeyeblue Apr 2022 #49

The world needs more Russia is ten feet tall threads DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2022 #50

I wouldn't discount cyber warfare themaguffin Apr 2022 #51

Yeah, that's a HELL of a Big Short... Volaris Apr 2022 #53

What should we do if Russia invades Estonia which it will do if it wins in Ukraine? marie999 Apr 2022 #63

President Biden has said "We will defend every inch of NATO territory." Mariana Apr 2022 #64

And we should defend NATO dwayneb Apr 2022 #69

In WWII we did sit back and not get involved militarily until we were attacked. marie999 Apr 2022 #72

And in WW2 we were almost too late dwayneb Apr 2022 #74

That's a different IF, tho... Volaris Apr 2022 #75

Should we just give up and let Putin do what he wants? Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #65

I've answered that question from YOU, KOAD... like 10x WarGamer Apr 2022 #66

WW3 is coming, whether we want it or not dwayneb Apr 2022 #68

Cyber expert on Russian cyber aggression: "Here we go." "This is very serious." Hortensis Apr 2022 #70

But I want what I want!!! Iggo Apr 2022 #73