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kentuck

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Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:37 PM Jan 2012

How the Republicans tore down our country [View all]

We don't have to go back very far. Only to about the 1980's.

It was at that time that they decided government was evil. Never before had they been so bold at stating their long held belief about government.

They took simple economic theories printed on napkins and made them a national policy. Their aim was to destroy the beast called "big government" by starving it to death. If there were no taxes, they would have nothing with which to feed the beast.

So they deliberately lied. They told the people that they could cut taxes and it would bring in more money to the Treasury. Simply because, businesses would have more money to expand and create jobs, thus bringing in more tax revenues. But, unfortunately, it did not work that way. They created huge debt and deficits, unlike any we had ever seen in history.

However, America did get sort of a reprieve in 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected. He was lucky to come in at a time when technology and computers were revolutionizing the American economy. By the end of his second term, he was able to balance the budget and forecast a surplus far into the future, without using SS funds to fund the government. Of course, the Republicans jumped on the bandwagon. They were partners in balancing the budget they argued. Of course, every single Republican voted against the Clinton economic plan in 1993 and said that it would create a terrible economy. Once again, they were able to lie themselves out of a hole.

But they were desperate. This money belonged to the people, not to the government, Bush argued in the 2000 campaign. They had to take back the government by hook or crook. They ended up taking back power by crook and decided to double down on the voodoo economics that had failed so terribly in the 1980's. Not only that, they would get rid of every regulation possible to make it easier for business to make their fortunes without the yoke of "big government". They had already reformed welfare under Clinton, before they impeached him. So they were well on their way to destroying the "beast" of big government.

Every conscious American knows what happened under George W Bush and the Republicans, who were in control of everything for 6 years. Terrorism, wars, pestilence, lies, and neglect of our Constitution, torture, rendition, etc. We all know what happened, even if some prefer to continue in denial. The Democrats were weak and helpless during this time. They offered little resistance.

Then, when Barack Obama was elected in 2008, many thought there was hope to turn everything around. Unfortunately, the mess created was so deep and destructive, and the willpower so weak and timid, that we were unable to make the progress that the country needed. We made some progress but it was minute compared to the need. The Republicans fought every effort to make the changes necessary.

So, there you have it. A short history of how the Republicans tore down our country and are looking for an opportunity to finish the job. America was such a great country with such hope and opportunity. The people bought the lies and were not vigilant and they lost it.




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I take objection NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #1
Then Maybe Dwight D. was onto something since tax rates for top tier incomes were 91% whathehell Jan 2012 #2
Wow NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #14
Don't worry...They had plenty of accountants and loopholes whathehell Jan 2012 #19
Ok NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #31
In Republican terms "getting real" means "uber-rich pay no taxes at ALL" whathehell Jan 2012 #34
I agree NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #46
9% of your income *over a certain amount*. HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #36
It's marginal income... WCGreen Jan 2012 #44
I'm sorry but... kentuck Jan 2012 #3
But all is rosy now....(for the top 1%) izquierdista Jan 2012 #5
You got it! kentuck Jan 2012 #7
That's only true if your ignore Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #13
Errr... NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #18
It was "headed downward" because of stupid decisions made by Wall Street and whathehell Jan 2012 #35
your mortgage is not analogous to intra-government debt unblock Jan 2012 #4
if the gov't (outside socsec) runs a surplus, but socsec runs a bigger one, then total debt goes up. unblock Jan 2012 #10
There is no trust fund NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #17
Nice RW talking point there hootinholler Jan 2012 #22
yeah... NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #28
Whatever you call it, we the people PAID for it. In fact, the Baby Boomers paid DOUBLE whathehell Jan 2012 #37
I didn't... NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #45
Sounds like whathehell Jan 2012 #50
It's not a talking point NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #53
Maybe not, but you certainly sound like a republican whathehell Jan 2012 #54
Indeed. Sometimes I think some people want to bury the trust fund in a back yard somewhere rather pampango Jan 2012 #33
you can't have it both ways. unblock Jan 2012 #25
What? NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #27
you are counting them as a liability but not as an asset. that is a complete fraud. unblock Jan 2012 #32
It's a liability NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #42
ok, let's break it down: unblock Jan 2012 #47
there's a problem NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #49
here's one source: unblock Jan 2012 #52
Fuck the national debt...Reagan raised the debt limit something like twenty plus times, in 8 years. whathehell Jan 2012 #38
Yeah, I'm sure you do. tabasco Jan 2012 #12
The Congressional Budget Office NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #16
So which is it? hootinholler Jan 2012 #23
Sorry NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #30
You must be kidding.. whathehell Jan 2012 #40
Huh? NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #41
Huh? whathehell Jan 2012 #51
Objection overruled. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #20
Riddle me this NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #43
Why are you spreading lies? tabasco Jan 2012 #56
Yes, I remember in the 80's when those repuke presidents were cutting taxes hughee99 Jan 2012 #6
Is this an attempt to be facetious or sarcastic? kentuck Jan 2012 #8
Not an attempt, I think it was a success. hughee99 Jan 2012 #9
I can't disagree with that... kentuck Jan 2012 #11
"...finish the job" is proven in how the house under GOP simply picked up where they left off. They deacon Jan 2012 #15
The Republicans are backed by big money and big business and big media.. DCBob Jan 2012 #21
I disagree. They have only just started tryiny to break up the country. L. Coyote Jan 2012 #24
they still think govt is evil unless it has to do with governing women's reproductive rights spanone Jan 2012 #26
They don't think it's "evil" when it works for the One Percent...When it works for the rest of us whathehell Jan 2012 #39
There are some on DU that bash Obama and democrats as much as possible. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #29
i wonder the same thing upi402 Jan 2012 #57
Good history YoungDemCA Jan 2012 #48
they had no opposition upi402 Jan 2012 #55
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