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Wed Jan 19, 2022, 08:15 AM Jan 2022

Carl Sagan's prediction of an America he never lived to see [View all]

Prediction starts at 2:24

What is alarming to me is how quickly, relatively speaking, the progress of the industrial revolution is unraveling.

It reminds me of this passage from the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous though I am not an alcoholic (my dad was).

This world of ours has made more material progress in the last century than in all the millenniums which went before. Almost everyone knows the reason. Students of ancient history tell us that the intellect of men in those days was equal to the best of today. Yet in ancient times material progress was painfully slow. The spirit of modern scientific inquiry, research and invention was almost unknown. In the realm of the material, men's minds were fettered by superstition, tradition, and all sorts of fixed ideas. Some of the contemporaries of Columbus thought a round earth preposterous. Others came near putting Galileo to death for his astronomical heresies.

… Even in the present century [1900s], American newspapers were afraid to print an account of the Wright brothers' first successful flight at Kitty Hawk. …
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There's a biblical passage that springs into my mind sometimes: there's nothing new under the sun captain queeg Jan 2022 #1
It's from Ecclesiastes 1:9 which is wnylib Jan 2022 #9
Yeah I get some of those auto corrects like that captain queeg Jan 2022 #11
Well, that's because Sagan IS Satan! krispos42 Jan 2022 #19
Oh dear. I fear that my phone is wnylib Jan 2022 #21
Ecclesiastes is one of my favorite OT books because it pounds on the illusions that PatrickforB Jan 2022 #26
Most people regard Ecclesiastes as wnylib Jan 2022 #28
Wow, is THAT a blast from the past! I read Dragons of Eden in the way-back-when - PatrickforB Jan 2022 #30
I read it back in the mid 1980s wnylib Jan 2022 #31
Yes, I belong to a Noetic Sciences discussion group that meets one Saturday a month. PatrickforB Jan 2022 #32
Ecclesiastes 1:9 Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #10
Wish that I could give this more than 1 ChazII Jan 2022 #2
The dumbing down of America: Auggie Jan 2022 #3
Sadly, Delphinus Jan 2022 #4
When Democracy gets in the way of Income Streams... Bourgeois Liberal Jan 2022 #24
Must agree Rebl2 Jan 2022 #33
Full quote at end of show (excellent): erronis Jan 2022 #5
Thanks for the quote. Wow - he was right on! TheRickles Jan 2022 #8
An accurate description of social decay. wnylib Jan 2022 #13
And Republicans are not finished dumbing down America. Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #14
Think about that last sentence though. plimsoll Jan 2022 #16
Sagan was prescient, an intellectual equal to Michelangelo, but why less celebrated is itself Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #18
Thanks, was getting ready to search for "Carl Sagan quotes" KS Toronado Jan 2022 #15
Tnx, I was just gonna turn on "Notes" and use the voice recognition to type out the quote mitch96 Jan 2022 #27
Yikes. The guy nailed it long ago captain queeg Jan 2022 #29
K&R UCmeNdc Jan 2022 #6
KNR niyad Jan 2022 #7
Kick dalton99a Jan 2022 #12
Wow, he saw it coming. Farmer-Rick Jan 2022 #17
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #20
A "celebration of ignorance". That's it. We stopped ... Whiskeytide Jan 2022 #22
Superstition, tradition, and all sorts of fixed ideas... ananda Jan 2022 #23
An amazing man.. mountain grammy Jan 2022 #25
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