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lapucelle

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55. Garland wasn't talking about Democrats. He was talking about anarchists.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 09:34 PM
Jan 2022
Destructive protests by anarchists and extremists signal divided left as Biden administration begins
The hundreds of far-left and anarchist demonstrators who gathered in protest mere hours after President Biden swore the oath of office Wednesday signal a fracturing on the left that could become a scourge for the new administration, political leaders and experts say.

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Violent and destructive activity among far-left groups has been increasing nationwide, according to a recent study by the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a nonprofit policy research group. Though nearly 70 percent of terrorist attacks and plots in the U.S. last year were committed by white supremacists and far-right militia groups, according to the study, the portion led by anarchist and anti-fascist groups rose to 20 percent from 8 percent in 2019.

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Seth G. Jones, the center’s director, said violent far-right events like the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville — which resulted in the death of a counterprotester — have prompted many of the far-left groups to arm themselves and organize more events that have also become increasingly violent and destructive.

“There is additional danger coming down the road where we have this extremism almost feeding on each other, almost inspiring one another,” Jones said. “Based on recent trends, we can expect violent far-left networks to conduct explosive, incendiary and firearm attacks against police, government and corporate targets.”

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Many on the left have criticized how such groups have demonstrated their ideologies, fearing it weakens their unity and message. Gregory McKelvey, a political consultant and vice chair of the Democratic Party of Oregon’s Black Caucus, noted that some activists “who want to empathize with the extreme left finding it hard to do so right now.”

“I don’t think these tactics work. It alienates people, and growing the coalition is essential to creating change,” McKelvey said. “I also think Trump was abhorrent and Inauguration Day was a day of the country really getting to exhale and celebrate and to do so and feel as though someone is telling you there is no cause for celebration when clearly there is, it’s frustrating.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/destructive-protests-by-anarchists-and-extremists-signal-divided-left-as-biden-administration-begins/2021/01/23/70f93610-5d8c-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html
See... PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #1
That is one of the posts to which I am referring. PTWB Jan 2022 #3
Couldn't he mean cilla4progress Jan 2022 #2
Yes. NurseJackie Jan 2022 #5
If he had simply said "ideologies" then yes. PTWB Jan 2022 #9
If he said that then my prediction has come true already. He aint gonna do jack shit Eliot Rosewater Jan 2022 #4
Stop. Just stop. NurseJackie Jan 2022 #7
Contextually Garland is technically correct uponit7771 Jan 2022 #8
I suspect you knew it way before Garland spoke. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #25
He's technically correct uponit7771 Jan 2022 #6
No, he's completely incorrect. PTWB Jan 2022 #10
Contextually Garland is technically correct, there's 330 million people in this country and to claim uponit7771 Jan 2022 #11
You're missing half of his quote. PTWB Jan 2022 #12
He called out case involving the judge as example in his book. I can see that being TECHNICALLY... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #14
Crazy people have attacked Judges for as long as there have been Judges. PTWB Jan 2022 #16
Ah, well ... that wasn't a good example to your point BUT he didn't narrow the bad actions of uponit7771 Jan 2022 #19
Hannah Arendt would be proud wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #34
Garland wasn't talking about Democrats. He was talking about anarchists. lapucelle Jan 2022 #55
Since I live in Seattle and work in Portland maxsolomon Jan 2022 #56
The data set, methodology, and an explanation of the terminology lapucelle Jan 2022 #57
OK, I read it. It defines far-left violence very broadly. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #58
The study is about "terrorizing" rather than "confronting". lapucelle Jan 2022 #59
Right. They're saying Antifa counter-protesting at a Proud Boy rally is Terror. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #60
It's reasonable that demonstrators confronted by "counterprotestors" using or threatening to use lapucelle Jan 2022 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Jan 2022 #63
A google search of both the full name and the initials of CSIS do not show the 2016 piece lapucelle Jan 2022 #65
Why did Zack Exely make a special trip to Russia just before merging... Budi Jan 2022 #22
+a million Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2022 #38
I like to dig into this & put it out for discussion but honestly, that would.... Budi Jan 2022 #40
I understand Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2022 #41
I may think about this a bit & pm you Budi Jan 2022 #43
I try. You're welcome! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jan 2022 #44
A Bernie Sanders supporter literally committed an act of terrorism against congress in 2017 mathematic Jan 2022 #64
Geez. Instead of worrying about parsing every word or inuedndo, can people just wait and see what JohnSJ Jan 2022 #13
Someone posted the text :Here sheshe2 Jan 2022 #26
......... JohnSJ Jan 2022 #50
Hey. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #51
Just wanted to say hi to you JohnSJ Jan 2022 #52
Statute of limitations passed for the Stormy Daniels payoff wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #36
I don't agree. We have to keep the pressure campaign on. ecstatic Jan 2022 #48
... cilla4progress Jan 2022 #15
This is Perfect.. we see it with Cha Jan 2022 #54
So we're talking about this and not the fact that DOJ has done nothing against the leaders of the dem4decades Jan 2022 #17
That's what Matt Miller just said BigmanPigman Jan 2022 #24
This was my impression. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #45
Full context: EarlG Jan 2022 #18
Violence is a problem and Merrick is right to call it out. PTWB Jan 2022 #20
No, he did not. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #27
You can read the quote I'm referring to in the OP. PTWB Jan 2022 #28
Out of context. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #30
I watched the speech live. PTWB Jan 2022 #31
I watched it live as well. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #42
In this section of the speech EarlG Jan 2022 #29
That may be how he intended it. PTWB Jan 2022 #33
Fair enough EarlG Jan 2022 #39
People can Honestly have more than one take. MarcA Jan 2022 #46
Of course you can't think of a single case. Because you've narrowed the entire investigation down... Budi Jan 2022 #32
I haven't narrowed his investigation down to one statement. PTWB Jan 2022 #35
If you see right wing extremists as being identical in partisanship or ideology, you may have a case Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #21
If he had merely said ideology, he would skate. PTWB Jan 2022 #23
Your OP mentions "right wing extremism", no mention of partisanship. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #37
I didn't hear bothsiderism. I heard: "If you think terrorists are all brown & black & non-Christian-- Hekate Jan 2022 #47
I didn't hear it that way when I listened to the entire speech. GoodRaisin Jan 2022 #49
I did not hear it Meowmee Jan 2022 #53
Nor did he. MineralMan Jan 2022 #62
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