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In reply to the discussion: Man punches nurse for removing wife's burqa during c-section [View all]Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)7. How about begging your husband to allow exam by doctor?
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Well then, he can view the next ten years of his wife and child's life.... through bars.
hlthe2b
Jan 2012
#4
10 years??!! France's burqa laws are so mild, this guy may get a fine only.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#11
You mean, not for FORCING HIS WIFE TO WEAR A BURQA! That only brings a fine.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#29
The burqa is a cultural artifact meant to oppress and diminish women. It's not religious.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#68
The assumption being that all men are potential rapists with no self control whatsoever.
aquart
Jan 2012
#106
You can try to rationalize it all you want but full female shrouding is not religious
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#86
"Outsiders" can and do make judgements (and pass laws) on practices all the time
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#104
NO! You're missing the starting point which is that we've ALWAYS decided what religious practices
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#119
Public nudity is prohibited by law. You are being purposefully obtuse.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#137
We are centuries beyond women being able to assert their "rights" to go naked in public
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#152
I just fundamentally disagree with your premise about the "start" of the conversation
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#182
Boy, are you wrong in this instance. In order to give proper medical care,
Honeycombe8
Jan 2012
#187
I have not commented on any of the things you suggest I have taken a position on
Ms. Toad
Jan 2012
#188
Orthodox Jews are also really bad about the practice of making women 2nd class citizens.
YellowRubberDuckie
Jan 2012
#83
That's 110% untrue, my post history supports that. I oppose ANY religious "shrines" near Ground 0.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#155
That's completely consistent with my position. I'm pretty anti-religious all around.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#158
The position being that the only religious loonies worth getting passionate about are Muslim ones?
Violet_Crumble
Jan 2012
#159
Uhm, you made the accusation first and clearly saved (stalked?) my 1 answer from before
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#161
We can and do put restrictions on it. FGM has been argued by Muslims to be a religious right
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#105
We can and do make laws governing what people may wear in public. We can and do impose our "views"
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#116
Waiting for those who still think the burqa isn't some misogynistic garment to chime in....
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#5
I am not always a good person. The doctors should have removed this guy's claim to superiority.
saras
Jan 2012
#17
My favorite bar joke involves surreptitiously ripping up a napkin into little pieces beforehand
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#112
I'd like to know the specific difference between a "religion" and a "cult"
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#35
Wait... Where are all the people lining up to say this sort of shit deserves "cultural tolerance"?
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#33
When people have invisible friends who tell them to act out violently, we call it "mental illness"
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#37
Came back from France in December - Friends there tell me that the younger
GoneOffShore
Jan 2012
#73
As French citizens they're puzzled - Despite being on opposite sides of the political fence
GoneOffShore
Jan 2012
#88
I think that having invisible friends in the sky who talk to you IS a form of mental illness.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#77
Why? Is the deity supposed to be visible? No. Is the deity supposed to be a friend, of sorts? Yes.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#110
Not newsworthy, but it's a chance to smear Muslims so it gets lots of media play
CrawlingChaos
Jan 2012
#78
What's astounding is that it took this long for someone to show up & try to apologize for this shit.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#81
There is a solution. Put this shithead in prison, he attacked a hospital employee.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#108
How could it have been avoided? By educating this fuckhead that a C-Section requires Burka removal.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#122
There are at least 4 other links to other sources upthread. Maybe you could read the thread? nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#138
I've read the thread. None of the other articles differ substantially and seem to echo eachother. nt
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#150
I'm an Atheist. My wife is Jewish. She had a baby at a Catholic Hospital.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#162
His wife labored for 2 days in that damn burqa!! The staff allowed it!
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#124
It doesn't matter if male staff were in the room. His wife needed medical attention and he tried to
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#140
I agree. You've made yourself perfectly clear on this thread and I have nothing more to add.nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#154
Are you seriously advocating for sex segregated hospitals in France?? Really?!
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#91
He'd been banned from the room for calling the FEMALE midwife a "rapist" for doing an internal exam.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#107
Don't even bother. You're not properly checking your White Male privilege against Oppressed Peoplez™
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#114
Yeah. Love that line. We've got people who think porn and cheesecake pancakes should be illegal
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#113
People need to remember who the real 'victim' is, here, i.e. the poor misunderstood guy who couldn't
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#109
as a Respiratory Therapist - I have attended hundreds and hundreds of C-sections in Saudi Arabia
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#80
Yes, NOT France where you believe they should have gender segregated hospitals to accomodate Muslims
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#142
The woman in the OP was being seen by a FEMALE midwife, who was accused of being a RAPIST!
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#149
I have never heard of anything like this in a total of 25 years in the Middle East
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#139
But you know, in FRANCE, the medical staff are being "culturally insensitive" to remove the burqa
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#141
my problem with this story is that it begins with the title "French Muslim Jailed" and then thestory
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#143
there is no disputing that Bernie Madoff is a Jew but we don't report the story in a bigoted manner
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#147
Are you really asserting the guy's religion in the OP had nothing to do with his actions? nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#153
no more than a snake handler in the mountains of West Virginia has to do with Christianity
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#166
Oh, I completely agree with you. However, the guy in the story obviously does not.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#183
Foxnews? Think they would post an article like this if the guy was an insane christian?
Fuzz
Jan 2012
#92
There are at least 4 other links to other sources upthread. Maybe you could read the thread? nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#93
Do you really think he's mentally ill? Or are you inferring he's religiously crazy?
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#126
Upthread, people are arguing it's the hospital's fault for not being more 'culturally sensitive'.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#163
at least I never beat the crap out of someone attempting to deliver my baby
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#191
Since you are passing judgement without having any context of the convo perhaps you can read
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#184
Oh FFS!! You admit you haven't read the thread or subthread and yet pass summary judgement??!!
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#195
I was at a newsstand, and a man I didn't know bought a copy of a magazine called "Juggs"
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#118