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In reply to the discussion: Which of these do you consider yourself? [View all]Celerity
(43,662 posts)30. sigh, this makes me so sad (I am too tired to even get mad over it, it is just wearying)
I also do accept the idea of white privilege
White privilege is largely not because of the color of their skin
Simply not true, as I can attest too for most of my life, in the UK, in the US, and in Sweden
Some tiny, everyday examples:
I am a multiracial, multi-ethnic cis female, and my wife is a blonde haired, blue-eyed Swede, and we both were raised in London.
We can go into (and have done so many many times) a posh store (think Harrods or Harvey Nichols in London posh, or Bergdorf Goodman in NYC or Galeries LaFayette in Paris, or Fred Segal in LA, or La Rinascente in Milan, or NK here in Stockholm) and I can be all kitted out in very high end designer clothes, bag, accessories, and wifey ca be wearing trainers and sweats ro jeans and a tee, perhaps straight from the gym. Guess who, when we separate, has been followed by security FAR more many times? Lower end stores than those, like Nordstrom or Bloomingdales in the US are even worse.
Guess who (especially in the US) is going to draw the attention of the coppers when it's one of us driving our Cayenne alone (or dog forbid, me with a friend or friends who are also non-white)?
Pro tip, it isn't the blonde Swede girl I am married to.
She has never had, and likely never will, white women (especially older ones in the US) reflexively clutch their bags when she walks onto a lift with them. I SO wish I could say the same thing.
And as bad as it can get for me, male persons of colour often have it much worse.
Now, this statement (which includes the 2nd part above) is just so problematic:
White privilege is largely not because of the color of their skin, but an opportunity advantage due to predominantly growing up in two parent households in good neighborhoods and good schools.
That literally implies two things that show systemic racist thinking, and a third that is entirely contradictory.
1. It implies that most, if not all whites have 2 parent households and live in 'good' neighbourhoods with 'good' schools
2. It implies that people of colour do not have that, as you yourself listed those things as foundational to white privilege
3. It is completely self-contradictory as you said:
I also do accept the idea of white privilege
but then go on to define it anyway.
White privilege doesn't mean your life cannot be hard, but it does mean that the colour of your skin is not one of things making it harder.
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I empathize. That my thing. Sometimes I empathize for a second with the creepiest
applegrove
Nov 2021
#1
I don't fit very well into categories, as where I am really depends on the issue
Amishman
Nov 2021
#7
sigh, this makes me so sad (I am too tired to even get mad over it, it is just wearying)
Celerity
Nov 2021
#30
I thought it also meant that you are ok with banning long time things now found offensive by some
Polybius
Nov 2021
#24
History of the...Left - Right spectrum. Where did it come from? French Revolution..
Stuart G
Nov 2021
#21
Not many, only a handful self-label as such. AOC and Bernie are the two most well known.
Celerity
Nov 2021
#36
It is hubristic to think you can simply 're-brand' a toxic (toxic in a reactionary nation-state like
Celerity
Nov 2021
#39