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UTUSN

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Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:28 AM Jun 2021

"Forget the Alamo" & John WAYNE. It was about slavery and suppressing Latinos. [View all]

New book, Forget the Alamo: The Rise and Fall of an American Myth, by Bryan Burrough, Jason Stanford, Chris Tomlinson.

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https://news.yahoo.com/weve-telling-alamo-story-wrong-214354374.html

We've Been Telling the Alamo Story Wrong for Nearly 200 Years. Now It's Time to Correct the Record

Bryan Burrough

.... Start with the Alamo. So much of what we “know” about the battle is provably wrong. William Travis never drew any line in the sand; this was a tale concocted by an amateur historian in the late 1800s. There is no evidence Davy Crockett went down fighting, as John Wayne famously did in his 1960 movie The Alamo, a font of misinformation; there is ample testimony from Mexican soldiers that Crockett surrendered and was executed. The battle, in fact, should never have been fought. Travis ignored multiple warnings of Santa Anna’s approach and was simply trapped in the Alamo when the Mexican army arrived. He wrote some dramatic letters during the ensuing siege, it’s true, but how anyone could attest to the defenders’ “bravery” is beyond us. The men at the Alamo fought and died because they had no choice. Even the notion they “fought to the last man” turns out to be untrue. Mexican accounts make clear that, as the battle was being lost, as many as half the “Texian” defenders fled the mission and were run down and killed by Mexican lancers. ....

Census data indicates that Latinos are poised to become a majority of the Texas population any year now, and for them, the Alamo has long been viewed as a symbol of Anglo oppression. The fact that many Tejanos — Texas Latinos— allied with the Americans, and fought and died alongside them at the Alamo, has generally been lost to popular history. The Tejanos’ key contributions to early Texas were written out of almost all early Anglo-authored histories, much as Anglo Texans ran Tejanos out of San Antonio and much of South Texas after the revolt. For too long, the revolt has been viewed by many as a war fought by all Anglos against all of Mexican descent. ....

It’s a lesson many Latinos in the state don’t learn until mandatory Texas history classes taught in seventh grade. “The way I explain it,” says Andres Tijerina, a retired history professor in Austin, “is Mexican-Americans [in Texas] are brought up, even in the first grade, singing the national anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance and all that, and it’s not until the seventh grade that they single us out as Mexicans. And from that point on, you realize you’re not an American. You’re a Mexican, and always will be. The Alamo story takes good, solid, loyal little American kids and it converts them into Mexicans.”

And Mexican-American history isn’t the only piece of the past that’s distorted by the Alamo myth. Academic researchers long tiptoed around the issue of slavery in Texas; active research didn’t really begin until the 1980s. Since then, scholars such as Randolph Campbell and Andrew Torget have demonstrated that slavery was the single issue that regularly drove a wedge between early Mexican governments—dedicated abolitionists all—and their American colonists in Texas, many of whom had immigrated to farm cotton, the province’s only cash crop at the time. ....

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kicking with the pointy boots blogslug Jun 2021 #1
If you want Texas to stay solidly red Ex Lurker Jun 2021 #34
Not quite sure I understand what you mean. blogslug Jun 2021 #35
Sorry, I was replying to the OP Ex Lurker Jun 2021 #36
A colleague of mine wrote a journal article in 1990s entitled "There wouldn't be a Texas if the Comfortably_Numb Jun 2021 #2
Excellent line! UTUSN Jun 2021 #4
Most of the Americans that moved to Texas were from the South... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #3
K&R! Doc Sportello Jun 2021 #5
More hidden history: Before Brown v Board cbabe Jun 2021 #6
A plaintiff:American G.I. Forum -postWWII minority veterans were denied services. Segregated burials UTUSN Jun 2021 #8
Good luck spreading that message in Texas Hulk Jun 2021 #7
I forget who said/wrote this, but I think it's a great summation. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #16
of course llashram Jun 2021 #9
Like most American history the story of the Alamo is as dull as dish water no matter how its told. BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #10
and they all died llashram Jun 2021 #11
It's also a very underwhelming place to visit LeftInTX Jun 2021 #33
I still think bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #12
"Jonathan Winters as General Billy Joe Hallson"! - sounds like the My Pillow dude!1 UTUSN Jun 2021 #13
lol bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #14
Coming soon to my library NQAS Jun 2021 #15
I have 2 degrees from a state university & know nothing. Am learning from University of YouTube! UTUSN Jun 2021 #17
Same here NQAS Jun 2021 #18
2 memories: The touchy-feely mood of the '70s, "forget the pyramids", plus UTUSN Jun 2021 #20
Remember the Alamo?...bullshit..i agingdem Jun 2021 #19
One Texan wingnut calls it "the shrine" & says, "We stole it fair and square" UTUSN Jun 2021 #22
Never been there but the area around the Alamo has been described to me as "strip mall hell". Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 #31
Sort of, but there's more to it than that Ex Lurker Jun 2021 #21
How many of those 19 instituted slavery? So perhaps those *were* fighting for their own freedom? UTUSN Jun 2021 #24
As late as the late fifties... czarjak Jun 2021 #23
But, but Davy Crockett came all the way from Tennessee to be oasis Jun 2021 #25
Somehow, facts are often overlooked.... SergeStorms Jun 2021 #26
It's the translation of "make America great again" - to keep on "overlooking facts" and to UTUSN Jun 2021 #27
Very true. SergeStorms Jun 2021 #29
I highgly recommend the movie "Walkout," about the La Raza movement/East LA Walkouts obamanut2012 Jun 2021 #28
"my shame" - no shame on you UTUSN Jun 2021 #30
I learned the John Wayne version OriginalGeek Jun 2021 #32
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