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15. Well, it basically comes to the same thing...
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jan 2012

When people see the poor as 'people who WILL not work' and want them to 'pull their own weight instead of being a drain on society' they *are* basically seeing them as deserving to suffer. When people are prepared to let genuinely poor people suffer rather than risk freeloaders taking advantage, then while they may not 'delight' in suffering, they are saying that they'd rather let people suffer than risk cheating. (This is not saying that cheating is a good thing, or that it never happens, or that one shouldn't have strong safeguards and sanctions against it; I am referring here to those who would rather *not have the programmes at all*, than risk the possibility of their being abused.) When people 'feel that more people can tough it out and just walk on their sprained ankles' or equivalent, then they *are* endorsing suffering.

The analogy of a hike only works to a certain extent, because no one *has* to go on a hike, and one could validly say that people who are unprepared, or for various reasons incapable, of pulling their weight on a hike, could avoid going and placing an extra burden on others. Everyone has to go on the journey of life, and when people take a harsh attitude toward other people's weakness, and lack of survival abilities, and assumethat everyone who needs help must be cheating unless their reason is as instantly obvious as a broken leg, then they are inevitably going to permit and implicitly endorse a great deal of suffering.

I doubt there's any one answer... phantom power Jan 2012 #1
It's because a high percentage of those Repubs. in power are sociopaths. And these, Cal33 Jan 2012 #3
I'm with you on this. newspeak Jan 2012 #9
It's a way of separating themselves from those "other" people. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #2
Torquemada would have been a rethuglican. lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #4
I did not even mention edhopper Jan 2012 #5
Because a fundamental aspect of the RW philosophy is that the strong in society should be allowed to LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #6
Good post! edhopper Jan 2012 #7
Spot on! PurityOfEssence Jan 2012 #12
Wrongly believing rank and file Republicans "delight in suffering" kctim Jan 2012 #8
I love your posts, they crack me up. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #10
I agree Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #17
I think I was talking more about edhopper Jan 2012 #22
If you make $8 or $10 or even $12 an hour hfojvt Jan 2012 #11
Well, it basically comes to the same thing... LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #15
Whut? lonestarnot Jan 2012 #24
I don't minimize their evil - I think you might have been referring to another post. LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #26
Religion. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #13
I don't know. I think you have to be born that way. raouldukelives Jan 2012 #14
Oh, they delight in suffering, all right . . . Brigid Jan 2012 #16
It Makes Them Feel "Superior"... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #18
They don't call it the "R-complex" for nothing: IDemo Jan 2012 #19
To get in real good StarlightGold Jan 2012 #20
To have someone to look down on treestar Jan 2012 #21
Verminists! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #23
For all the reasons already mentioned, plus that... Crankie Avalon Jan 2012 #25
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