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In reply to the discussion: This is so sad and ridiculous. Over snow shoveling. [View all]dalton99a
(81,700 posts)61. Shocking video shows Pennsylvania couple arguing with neighbor before murder-suicide
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-shoveling-murder-suicide-surveillance-video-20210204-uudc6ma5z5bv7gf6mdnizbwj2e-story.html
Shocking video shows Pennsylvania couple arguing with neighbor before murder-suicide sparked by snow shoveling
By Jessica Schladebeck and Thomas Tracy
New York Daily News | Feb 04, 2021 at 11:30 AM
Surveillance video captured the horrific moment two people who shot and killed in what ended in a murder-suicide in Pennsylvania after a dispute over snow shoveling.
In video from a surveillance camera perched above the home, the married couple can be seen in a heated exchange with James Spaide, who lived in the house across the street. The 47-year-old neighbor can be heard muttering that the Goys are scummy before he appears in the frame, sparking an immediate reaction from the pair.
This is bull s---, Lisa shouts.
You can go f--- yourself, her husband adds.
In the clip, James Goy appears to approach Spaide with a raised fist, both of them hurling expletives and calling each other names throughout the exchange. It prompts Spaide to race inside his home while his neighbors continue to shout.
Lisa Goy at one point returns to her shoveling, but stops again to call Spaide scum in the seconds before he returns with a handgun.
Go ahead, she urges her armed neighbor. Go ahead.
Shocking video shows Pennsylvania couple arguing with neighbor before murder-suicide sparked by snow shoveling
By Jessica Schladebeck and Thomas Tracy
New York Daily News | Feb 04, 2021 at 11:30 AM
Surveillance video captured the horrific moment two people who shot and killed in what ended in a murder-suicide in Pennsylvania after a dispute over snow shoveling.
In video from a surveillance camera perched above the home, the married couple can be seen in a heated exchange with James Spaide, who lived in the house across the street. The 47-year-old neighbor can be heard muttering that the Goys are scummy before he appears in the frame, sparking an immediate reaction from the pair.
This is bull s---, Lisa shouts.
You can go f--- yourself, her husband adds.
In the clip, James Goy appears to approach Spaide with a raised fist, both of them hurling expletives and calling each other names throughout the exchange. It prompts Spaide to race inside his home while his neighbors continue to shout.
Lisa Goy at one point returns to her shoveling, but stops again to call Spaide scum in the seconds before he returns with a handgun.
Go ahead, she urges her armed neighbor. Go ahead.
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I think there is an elevated baseline of frustration b/c of COVID concerns and the social isolation
theneworiginal
Feb 2021
#22
This is sick. He murdered them. This is on him. There are many things you can do to your
Squinch
Feb 2021
#8
Yes, but there are assholes in the world. Always have been. The rest of us deal with it. A growing
Squinch
Feb 2021
#32
No. The guy who pulled the trigger over a snow shoveling argument is the ONLY ONE responsible
Squinch
Feb 2021
#39
I have not put any words in your mouth. And again, no. This is not just you and me not seeing
Squinch
Feb 2021
#46
You make many good points that illustrate why this is a complex situation...
NurseJackie
Feb 2021
#50
All in a small period of time I had to talk to comcast, IRS and Unemployment. Hours on these calls
LizBeth
Feb 2021
#54
While reading the story I thought it pretty asshol'ish of the neighbors too and was reading replies
LizBeth
Feb 2021
#52
If this happened in any other country, it would lead the national news for a week
greenjar_01
Feb 2021
#14
We've had a couple of killings over dog poop here in Florida in recent years.
iscooterliberally
Feb 2021
#15
Good point. City drivers are very angry these days....sometimes my husband
Peregrine Took
Feb 2021
#36
Bringing a gun to the philosophical inquiry into "free-will and/or determinism" debate
sanatanadharma
Feb 2021
#31
I think there was a little more rhyme and reason to it in this case. See #55 upthread
JHB
Feb 2021
#60
Shocking video shows Pennsylvania couple arguing with neighbor before murder-suicide
dalton99a
Feb 2021
#61