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In reply to the discussion: Bill Maher absolutely says why 72 million voted for Trump........... [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,400 posts)104. If there were no counter-protesters, the message would be "everyone agrees with Trump"
and "how come no one disagrees with Trump?"
If it's inevitable that the silly Trumpers will start fights if anyone counter-protests, then the choices are (a) let them look like the only "voice of the people", or (b) counter-protest, and see the Trumpers starting a fight. So a good idea would be to film it. I've seen film of Trumpers starting a fight. This seems to have worked.
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If I understand you, I agree. It's not a good idea to describe everyone in a group the same way. n
LAS14
Nov 2020
#113
I have boiled it down to this; one group believes dems will take their guns
yankeepants
Nov 2020
#52
I think the one big thing we can do to over come it is to court the youth vote
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#25
Amen! More common sense from Bill Maher than I hear from half the Democrats I know.
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2020
#48
Is there a Democratic website that is more in line with our thinking? I find here
doc03
Nov 2020
#68
So you say the Democratic party doesn't have any common sense in it?
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#71
Right, so it was a waste of time. Nothing to do with how people vote.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#99
If there were no counter-protesters, the message would be "everyone agrees with Trump"
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#104
Been said forever that Dems/Libs look inside for root causes, wingnuts look outside blaming others.
UTUSN
Nov 2020
#107
I somewhat agree with his point, but disagree that Dems didn't win bigger entirely BECAUSE of that.
coti
Nov 2020
#89
I find myself agreeing with him quite often. What does that make me? nt
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2020
#26
Yes..typical armchair politician. Lots of stories...NO ideas or solutions
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#27
I see we've already found a topic for the post-Trump DU to shout and scream about. nt
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2020
#33
Maher is right. His argument is 'common sense'. 'Defund the police' defies common sense.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#6
64% oppose the Defund movement. That's the middle that largely determine winners.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#19
Show me the Democrat or Democratic platform that called for Defunding the Police.
Yavin4
Nov 2020
#21
Platform? That's a real vote bloc mover. Lot of politics is about who doesn't like who.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#30
Exactly...the pukes pushed that..not us. uneducated voters that would not have voted dem anyway
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#32
Maher, and many others, have made the point of dismissing 48% of voters - and
empedocles
Nov 2020
#45
Specifically, she wanted a decrease in the NYC police budget from $6bn to $5bn
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#75
Which would mean Maher and the DUers who agree with him are wrong.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#91
It doesn't matter that we de-emphasized it and refined its meaning to something sensible.
gulliver
Nov 2020
#106
It wasn't the Dems pushing it. It was an unfortunate statement, the right grabbed hold of that
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#13
It's largely that they don't care if it fucks the Democratic Party, all the better if it does. This
OnDoutside
Nov 2020
#65
Thinking that every election loss is always our fault or something we said or didn't say leads to...
Yavin4
Nov 2020
#34
THIS. And then when we win it's the same damn criticism. "Oh noes! Dems almost lost!"
ancianita
Nov 2020
#41
I don't think he's right entirely. I thought it assumed that we're the party of every single
In It to Win It
Nov 2020
#60
When Maher has ppl the likes of Steve bannon on and gives him a platform to spout lies
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#42
In typical Maher fashion, he goes a little overboard, but the totality of his point is correct.
Drunken Irishman
Nov 2020
#46
For me, it wasn't defending looting, but observing that white people seem to care more about
shrike3
Nov 2020
#116
One thing that Maher consistently does is conflate, the culture war narrative.
Caliman73
Nov 2020
#55
Some people here like to say this and that about Maher. We could all do that.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#62
I won't pretend to know what all Democrats have said or not said on the 'Defund' issue
In It to Win It
Nov 2020
#70
That was one part of his argument. Which you obviously agree with since you keep harping on it.
Caliman73
Nov 2020
#88
my brother is a republicam. he hates trump, but voted for him, because RRRRRRR. BUT!
pansypoo53219
Nov 2020
#66
When you see the Hegelian dialectic being dispensed of on college campuses
misanthrope
Nov 2020
#120
I always overestimate the intelligence of electorate and always wind up disappointed
MustLoveBeagles
Nov 2020
#87
Maher, and others, forget that there has been a demonization of Democrats since I was young
shrike3
Nov 2020
#117
Democrats need to remember that they are both a ruling party and an opposition party
Klaralven
Nov 2020
#109
The "strategy vs morality" argument will always be there. One is pointless w/o the other.
lindysalsagal
Nov 2020
#110
He donated 3 million dollars to get Democrats elected, Obama's reelection campaign and 2018
betsuni
Nov 2020
#129
No , everything that has happened in the last few years and even for last decades shows this isn't
JI7
Nov 2020
#131
Good news, everyone! Scott Atlas has told the people to "rise up", so the Republicans have lost.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#128
Exactly. Republicans can get away with the craziest bullshit and never have to pay a price
Yavin4
Nov 2020
#141