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pat_k

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3. Ask you friend" "Are you really for jailing women and their doctors?"
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 01:35 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:13 PM - Edit history (3)

Because that is what "pro-life" means. Make abortion a crime and its off to jail for women -- sometimes women in truly dire circumstances -- and the doctors who help them. It's off to jail for women who try to self-abort and end up in the hospital, who are then hauled off to jail for their crime (if they survive).

I've found that that can steer the conversation in a more reasonable direction.

Point out that what he wants is "no more abortions." We want that too. We think it would be wonderful if abortion were as rare as possible. If women -- including young women -- were fully informed and had easy access to birth control (with complete confidentiality).

Making abortion illegal will absolutely NOT accomplish his goal of "making it stop." "Banning" is not a magic wand.

It will only inflict greater suffering. Suffering for women and doctors who get "caught" and jailed. Suffering and death among desperate women who attempt to self-abort. More teens and other women having children they cannot support. More poverty because we have NO subsidized child care to support working mothers.

If he wants to see fewer abortions, he should support easy access to birth control. He should support subsidized child care to make it possible for a woman who wants a child, but who simply can't manage it because the cost of child care leaves her too little to live on.



Ask him to name his adopted children... Moostache Oct 2020 #1
No such thing as "pro-life." cwydro Oct 2020 #2
This ☝️☝️☝️ dixiechiken1 Oct 2020 #13
pro-birth maybe...they sure as hell ain't pro-life! Roland99 Oct 2020 #17
Ask you friend" "Are you really for jailing women and their doctors?" pat_k Oct 2020 #3
You're actually very nice. qwlauren35 Oct 2020 #9
Opps. Corrected. pat_k Oct 2020 #10
First things first gratuitous Oct 2020 #4
The logic of that escapes him. qwlauren35 Oct 2020 #11
Pro-fetus, anti-choice, anti-life. Greybnk48 Oct 2020 #5
Pro-jailing women and their doctors. Pro-suffering. pat_k Oct 2020 #7
Spot on, pat_k! N/t Greybnk48 Oct 2020 #19
Send him this: CrispyQ Oct 2020 #6
+1 pat_k Oct 2020 #8
I generally ask if they are also pro-death penalty Bettie Oct 2020 #12
I don't think he supports the death penalty. qwlauren35 Oct 2020 #14
Telling them "FUCK OFF!" doesn't waste anyone's time. hunter Oct 2020 #15
I am very proud of myself. qwlauren35 Oct 2020 #16
Shut him up fast mercuryblues Oct 2020 #18
Ooooooooooh! qwlauren35 Oct 2020 #20
PP has gotten more than a few donations from me mercuryblues Oct 2020 #21
No one argument changes a person's mind, myccrider Oct 2020 #22
What's their stance on blowing Covid breath on newborns? Generic Brad Oct 2020 #23
I just tell them they support murdering women ismnotwasm Oct 2020 #24
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