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BainsBane

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28. and Trump is targeting Minnesota,
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:30 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:20 AM - Edit history (1)

my state, hard. Fortunately Biden was just here too.

Every election, Democrats do seem to spend a lot of energy on trying to win red states they think are within striking distance. Beto's campaign is an example. I think it would take a miracle for Biden to win Texas. If what we believe to be blue states need shoring up, I hope the campaign does so.

Regarding Hillary's ground game, I don't know that it would have helped. There was so much hatred baked in against her that it was hard to overcome. I think that was part of what led the undecideds you reference to move toward Trump. They already knew they hated Hillary. It frustrates me because all of the anti-Hillary sentiment was based on ignorance and propaganda, but Trump has shown us that the truth simply doesn't matter.

The other small but potentially significant group is the self-described progressives who think Biden isn't good enough to vote for. They frustrate me most of all, and I attribute the rightward shit of the country to their efforts over the past few decades. The only statistic I can point to regarding that is the unusually high number of votes for Stein in those key states that Clinton lost.

The shy Trump voter. [View all] Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 OP
The EC was rigged in shithole's favor . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #1
Up until it happened, everyone said the EC was going to save the Democrats in 2016. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #3
Nate Silver says BainsBane Sep 2020 #26
It didn't cost her the election because of Pennsylvania... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #27
and Trump is targeting Minnesota, BainsBane Sep 2020 #28
It's possible for sure... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #29
Obama was exceptional BainsBane Sep 2020 #30
Agree with the overall premise rufus dog Sep 2020 #2
In my old 'con leaning, well-off neighborhood, there are relatively few prez signs up yet. empedocles Sep 2020 #9
Repubs are going to vote for him, a given rufus dog Sep 2020 #11
You completely ignored the 40%+ of American voters who didn't vote in 2016. Blue_true Sep 2020 #4
I can only go by what the polls say. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #5
You do have to wonder about the undecideds at this point. TheRealNorth Sep 2020 #6
My parents are shy Biden supporters. musicblind Sep 2020 #7
Yep. I think we're going to see a lot of shy Biden voters. backscatter712 Sep 2020 #8
I think shy and silent are misleading... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #10
I just now saw this but still wanted to answer. musicblind Sep 2020 #33
THIS rufus dog Sep 2020 #13
Great Work, But I'll Dissent With The Conclusion ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #12
Thanks for the post. I was triggered to post it by a recent Florida survey. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #14
The Shy Trump voter is a myth- it was a polling error well documented Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #15
Thanks. But did you read my post? Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #16
Did you read my post? The Rust Belt swing in Trump support was due to polling error Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #17
I did. I asked if you read my post because you're replying with an irrelevant comment. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #18
And I am suggesting that "shy" Trump voters simply weren't counted in polls Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #19
I get what you're saying. I'm saying it's irrelevant to my post. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #21
Hillary said in her book that her polling numbers were correct. betsuni Sep 2020 #20
I agree polls were largely correct. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #22
I'm assuming there'll be more early voting this time, which will help Biden. betsuni Sep 2020 #23
Plus, there's fewer undecided voters this go around - both nationally and in these three states. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #24
Thanks for your thoughtful BainsBane Sep 2020 #25
The elephant in the room... albacore Sep 2020 #31
I agree. Was the first election after the repeal of the Voting Rights Act. betsuni Sep 2020 #32
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