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In reply to the discussion: Now We Know Our ABCs. And Charter Schools Get an F. [View all]zazen
(2,978 posts)5. some do far worse; some do far better
And there's little rigorous qualitative research conducted yet on the schools. The quant metrics used, say for predominantly minority charters, show lower test scores but don't measure whether attitude, motivation, solidarity, and other indicators are better.
We support HBCUs at the college level. If minority parents want a predominantly minority charter for their children , I don't feel I have the right to oppose that.
And in NC, some non-profit, highly progressive charter schools are amazing--in the top 1% in the nation. But yes, they aren't equal, in that parents have to provide transportation. That screens out a lot of poorer families right there. Otherwise, it's a lottery.
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deregulated schooling is a big fail but a great profit center on the government dime
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#1
they're being deregulated everywhere, as we speak. deregulation has never, anywhere, meant
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#14
Since you are so familiar with RI law, perhaps you can point out specific weak areas? nt
hack89
Sep 2012
#69
Some public schools have admissions processes and other hoops as well
ProgressiveProfessor
Sep 2012
#10
and now you have achievement first, and you'll pay for the school buildings that *they'll* own.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#9
uh-huh. a terrible liability, i'm sure. the schools that are emptied to fill achievement first's
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#21
In RI at least, there is no relationship between spending and student achievement
hack89
Sep 2012
#37
i don't see any way to compare charters v. non-charters within districts or states, nor over time.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#66
as you say RI charters are better than other RI schools & have improved outcomes for
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#70
I'm seriously not trying to be difficult. But I would like to know what the official analysis says
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#76
The system is broken b/c the powers that be intentionally starve the schools so they
Dustlawyer
Sep 2012
#36
uh, yes, so the PR says in every state in the union. but when you actually look into the numbers,
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#43
So since i don't know much about RI, i'm comparing the one city/district i do know a bit about
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#100
And how are the remaining 20% of students in the district served by this arrangement? nt
wtmusic
Sep 2012
#40
I'm kind of shocked to read that they do *worse* than traditional public schools.
reformist2
Sep 2012
#3
there's not a goddamn thing any charter does that's "very specific" or "original".
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#18
omg, language immersion! earth-shattering revolution! unprecedented! why didn't anyone
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#41
you said charters were doing all these innovative things. charters are a trojan horse *designed*
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#95
I said niche charters were doing innovative things and addressing things the mainline schools cannot
ProgressiveProfessor
Sep 2012
#98
You said, & I quote: Some of them that are taking some very specific and original ways of doing
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#99
As long as public schools have to take any child that shows up at their doors,
bluestate10
Sep 2012
#29
How much of the "tax avoided" is really just a timing item (i.e. bonus depreciation).
joeglow3
Sep 2012
#30
Two thirds of the charters schools in that study were the equal or better than public schools
hack89
Sep 2012
#90
So public schools are not a good standard by which to judge a successful school?
hack89
Sep 2012
#92
Sure, they may admit students based on a lottery, but do they have to keep them?
KSstellarcat
Sep 2012
#80
Sorry, but your post does not state the grounds on which a student can be removed from a charter.
KSstellarcat
Sep 2012
#93