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In reply to the discussion: Penzeys Spices has no more F***s to give and lets it all hang out [View all]madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)54. Yes, these threads are very telling.
The things you find out about people.
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Penzeys Spices has no more F***s to give and lets it all hang out [View all]
madaboutharry
Jul 2020
OP
Pointing out the specific racist tactics white women tend to use is not misogyny.
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2020
#11
It's true, the same word can be used in in a misogynistic context as well as a context that is not
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2020
#24
Assigning one common name to it despite valid objections, claiming it is gender neutral, ...
Hekate
Jul 2020
#132
Pretty sure I didn't claim it was gender-neutral? White women play a specific role in white
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2020
#137
Central Park Cathy aka Dog-Walking Debby tried to get that man killed & I said that...
Hekate
Jul 2020
#134
Yes, these threads are telling. It has indeed become synonymous with "Bitch"...
Hekate
Jul 2020
#133
My name is John, the use of "Karen" is not high on my priority list of modern problems.
CCExile
Jul 2020
#74
The Karen meme is the ultimate irony: cruel stereotyping to label a cruel stereotyper.
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#12
Pointing out the specific racist tactics white women tend to use is not a cruel stereotype.
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2020
#13
Agreed. So let's use a descriptive label such as "asshole" instead of a name that millions
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#14
OK how about "racist asshole?" Or do you have something against everybody named "Karen?"
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#29
Thanks for pointing that out. Use of persons' names as insults is disgusting behavior.
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#38
"Karen" could end up being the "George Floyd" of the anti-name-shaming movement.
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#51
"Karen" is actually not descriptive AT ALL. It is a name shared by diverse millions of women,
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#30
No one is "trying to tar" every person named Karen, any more than the term "Peeping Tom"
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2020
#35
Do we want to emulate the behavior of the racist/sexist name-calling assholes we hate so much?
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#41
Oppression is not a competition, but when it comes to white women crying over the misuse of
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2020
#145
I remember an ad for "Dammitol" - might have been Firesign Theater or Dr Demento or SNL.
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#31
When you are a "Karen," that means you've opted-in -- and if it don't apply, let it fly!
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#3
Yup, And for cinnamon lovers, if you've not had their Vietnamese cinnamon, you've never had cinnamon
hlthe2b
Jul 2020
#6
See post #17 for why "Karen" is a bad way to identify white racist women.
madaboutharry
Jul 2020
#18
Great addition. I'm reminded of the course I took on the psychology of prejudice and discrimination
chia
Jul 2020
#125
Yes, because dog knows DU is definitive for the rest of the billions on the internet
Celerity
Jul 2020
#136
Instead of talking about systemic racism, let's once again talk about the poor suffering "Karens."
StarfishSaver
Jul 2020
#46
We can't make any inroads against racism unless we stop centering the comfort of White women
gollygee
Jul 2020
#58
It's about who we are. Do we want to be the good guys, or do we want to sling sexist labels,
lagomorph777
Jul 2020
#59
thank you. and when they upsurped my hawiian shirts as a raciest signal, that pissed me royaly off.
AllaN01Bear
Jul 2020
#70
Have adored Penxey's for many years. We are fortunate here to have, not only PenzetY's, but
niyad
Jul 2020
#75
Switching one woman's name for another reveals the hollowness of the anti-Karen-meme argument
chia
Jul 2020
#91
You're assuming the suggestion was made by someone who believes the meme is misogynistic.
Ms. Toad
Jul 2020
#93
I love Penzeys! Great company if you are looking for spices and because they are one of US!
flying_wahini
Jul 2020
#94
another term would have worked better: Barbie, Ivanka, etc. Not that hard.
Evolve Dammit
Jul 2020
#95
Yes, it makes some white people uncomfortable - and then they double down into full blown Karenness
StarfishSaver
Jul 2020
#115
"Barbie" is a doll; there can be practically no people with that as their full name
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2020
#154
Because of the number of people who don't have the characteristics that are being disparaged
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2020
#160
Bill Penzey is completely right. Whatever happened to BBQ Becky & other monikers associated ...
Hekate
Jul 2020
#131
So... you're saying using any of those other names is different than using Karen?
chia
Jul 2020
#144
My apologies for not having read your posts often enough to be familiar with what you've been saying
chia
Jul 2020
#151
Biff 'n' Muffy -- doesn't that just say entitlement & prep school & gated community?
Hekate
Jul 2020
#150