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H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:30 AM Jul 2020

Cognition, Orientation & MMSE [View all]

Donald Trump has recently bragged that he did surprisingly well on a cognitive test during his unscheduled November 2019 trip to Walter Reed Military Medical Center. As others have pointed out, if this were true, it would be a curious thing to boast about -- "medical professionals were shocked that I could pass a test!" But, of course, Trump never purposely tells the truth.

In researching this over the last 48 hours, I think that I have learned what actually happened on that November day. What is it that Trump has recently twisted and distorted into a really great cognitive test, the with the biggest score ever? Is there actually some connection between Trump's embarrassing fabrication and reality? Perhaps the tiniest of grains of truth?

Trump was upset when he entered Walter Reed, and became more agitated while inside. In such instances, doctors do what is known as a mini-mental status exam. (Some readers are no doubt thinking, "Yes, of course. A Folstein MMSE.&quot This test measures if the person is oriented, able to pay attention, and involves mental and motor skills. The results help the doctors to determine if there may be a phyical or mental issue involved. In a sense, could be called a cognitive test to make the person more at ease if they are agitated.

An MMSE is conducted in a quiet, well-lit room. The doctor asks a series of questions, with three primary focuses: person (what is your name?), time (what is today's date?), and place (where are we?). The full test includes two pages of questions, although in the crisis evaluations with a psychiatrist that I used to sit in on, it was usually an abbreviated version.

When Trump was able to answer the questions he was asked, the doctor did say, "Remarkable! You aced it!" Thus, Trump's hostility melted away, and he was convinced he had done extraordinarily well. In the diseased regions of his mind, this MMSE has morphed into an extensive cognitive test that documented that he is a very stable genius.

If I were to try to place this in context -- and this is merely my opinion -- it fits snuggly into my previously saying on this forum that a sociopath under pressure can experience episodes of psychosis. Trump's more extreme episodes of aggitated hostility and victimhood are something that I asked Dr. Bandy Lee about in my February 2020 interview for DU. The old boy is deteriorating before our very eyes.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Cognition, Orientation & MMSE [View all] H2O Man Jul 2020 OP
Thanks for these details. Of course we all know that tRUMP is nucking futs but it's good to abqtommy Jul 2020 #1
The way he twists H2O Man Jul 2020 #7
Agreed Dawgman49 Jul 2020 #2
Yeah, he'd get really high scores on that one! MoonRiver Jul 2020 #3
Is that the one that asks.... targetpractice Jul 2020 #5
Right! H2O Man Jul 2020 #8
My question is, what was going on that caused him to go to Walter Reed The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #4
That's the essential H2O Man Jul 2020 #12
Being given a test for cognition isn't part of a routine doctor's visit. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #19
I've never been H2O Man Jul 2020 #21
I've had this test 3 times. wnylib Jul 2020 #32
You Mean He Didn't Answer John Barron? Me. Jul 2020 #6
Ha! H2O Man Jul 2020 #13
Yes indeed - The old boy is deteriorating before our very eyes. malaise Jul 2020 #9
Since When Is He Proactive About HIs Health? Me. Jul 2020 #11
His healthy diet? H2O Man Jul 2020 #15
Hahahaha malaise Jul 2020 #17
I keep thinking H2O Man Jul 2020 #14
You are 100% correct malaise Jul 2020 #30
Link update reACTIONary Jul 2020 #27
Thanks malaise Jul 2020 #28
It was part of his physical - in 2018. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #35
Thanks for the link n/t malaise Jul 2020 #37
I thought it was only a year ago, until I went hunting for it. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #39
I searched for the WR emergency visit last year malaise Jul 2020 #41
It's sad when you can't tell coeur_de_lion Jul 2020 #10
There have been H2O Man Jul 2020 #16
We are seeing him travel the road map she laid out. malaise Jul 2020 #18
I haven't spoken H2O Man Jul 2020 #20
Nixon, yes. I remember that. wnylib Jul 2020 #36
From reading Dr. Lee's twitter coeur_de_lion Jul 2020 #38
Also Bandy Lee published another link coeur_de_lion Jul 2020 #43
If he's a sociopath, that's one thing. If he's experiencing cognitive failure, that's another. blogslut Jul 2020 #22
Yep. H2O Man Jul 2020 #23
Yes we are :-( OverBurn Jul 2020 #31
Yes. Both conditions. Scary, isn't it? wnylib Jul 2020 #40
Go for the record on live tv. safeinOhio Jul 2020 #24
Oh, hell. I remember doing that when wnylib Jul 2020 #42
Great to see you back posting, H20 Man - and obviously quite congitively competent, also. erronis Jul 2020 #25
Yes, glad you're back. Missed your insights. wnylib Jul 2020 #44
I dealt with head injured patients Warpy Jul 2020 #26
Head injuries are H2O Man Jul 2020 #51
So weird. We're shocked because he's a fucking moron? OverBurn Jul 2020 #29
The only circumstance H2O Man Jul 2020 #48
I like presidents that don't require cognitive pop-quizzes. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #33
I like presidents H2O Man Jul 2020 #47
Well, there that too.....lol Nevilledog Jul 2020 #49
I like both of those things. Iggo Jul 2020 #54
His test was more than two years ago Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #34
Yes, I remember that article. H2O Man Jul 2020 #45
I don't think the two were connected. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #50
Good call. H2O Man Jul 2020 #52
Well, when you announce your candidacy going DOWN an escalator MagickMuffin Jul 2020 #46
Absolutely! H2O Man Jul 2020 #53
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