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MicaelS

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99. Then what TERM should be used?

Fri May 29, 2020, 01:03 PM

May 2020

No name, what term?

Whiny White Women? Self-entitled white women? Bobbed White Women? White Women with Bobs?

Got to get the white part in there, along with the bob.

Wypipo Women?

Racist White Women?

No matter what term is chosen, there will some pushback to the term: "Not All XXXXXX are like that."

BYW, I am a white man, so the term white is definitely fair game.

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At the risk of being seen as a fuddy duddy "get off my lawn" type, a confession... [View all] Pacifist Patriot May 2020 OP

Small minds? Can't think of anything else? Srkdqltr May 2020 #1

Becky, Karen, Susan & Gertrudes... Karen's are bad, but nothing tops my age group: Susans! TheBlackAdder May 2020 #27

"But why the need to use a woman's name to label it?" WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #2

My wife is named Karen DBoon May 2020 #4

it describes a specific set of behaviors. If your wife exhibits those behaviors, then it applies to Voltaire2 May 2020 #14

bookmarking n/t rzemanfl May 2020 #22

We could call them Spoiled Brats. Spoiled Bitches LakeArenal May 2020 #33

Miss/Mrs/Ms Thing denies them any name malaise May 2020 #120

Me, too. I posted before I saw yours. LakeArenal May 2020 #140

Using a real person's name as a shorthand for offensive behavior is cruel and demeanining DBoon May 2020 #40

I think I'm over my "when they go low we go high" phrase. Autumn May 2020 #43

It describes nothing at all. It's a name, not a description, and it's wrong to use it as a smear. lagomorph777 May 2020 #46

"Why should the name of a woman I have been married to for many years suddenly become an acceptable WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #18

Because it is a cruel thing to do to a woman who does not deserve it DBoon May 2020 #32

What term should be used? MicaelS May 2020 #79

Why the need to chose any name? aquamarina May 2020 #89

Then what TERM should be used? MicaelS May 2020 #99

Why don't you check out Malaise's Post #24 aquamarina May 2020 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 May 2020 #88

And, there is zero male counterpart obamanut2012 May 2020 #8

Thank you. Tipperary May 2020 #13

The white male equivalent is the knucklehead knazi. Voltaire2 May 2020 #17

Where has that been used? No where. LakeArenal May 2020 #34

I use it a lot. Voltaire2 May 2020 #59

Okay.... you... LakeArenal May 2020 #64

it'll catch on. Voltaire2 May 2020 #129

It's not sexist to observe that white women benefit from white supremacy and exercise it in a WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #20

Expressing that anger at Karen's is sexist. LakeArenal May 2020 #45

"Expressing that anger at Karen's is sexist." WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #56

So what, many are as you can read. LakeArenal May 2020 #61

Having hurt feelings is not oppression. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #63

Karen was a common name given to girls in the 1950s DBoon May 2020 #42

Don't forget the Heathers... displacedtexan May 2020 #128

"Florida Man" might beg to disagree. 11 Bravo May 2020 #134

That's another one I'm not a fan of. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #143

When my parents named me Karen aquamarina May 2020 #66

Okay! WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #69

I get your anger. aquamarina May 2020 #71

It's not meant to be "an answer." WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #75

I thought I explained. aquamarina May 2020 #81

It is not exactly the same. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #84

So, aquamarina May 2020 #87

How are people named Karen who do not exhibit oppressive behaviors hurt by their name being WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #90

it's because the immediate aquamarina May 2020 #93

Do you think that way about guys named Tom? WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #97

I guarantee it is misused.... usedtobedemgurl May 2020 #94

Did you call the wholesale club? WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #100

No. I called the governor's office and passed on the information. usedtobedemgurl May 2020 #104

But you didn't ask the wholesale club why it was letting more people in than recommended? WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #105

You need a reason? usedtobedemgurl May 2020 #106

That's entirely fair. Sometimes people see patterns where they don't exist, and there's definitely a WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #107

They also see how flaky..... usedtobedemgurl May 2020 #110

Same. I won't indulge it. blm May 2020 #3

I agree. aquamarina May 2020 #95

Agreed. nt crickets May 2020 #137

Male Karen's are called Ken's I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #5

No, they aren't obamanut2012 May 2020 #9

I heard they were. I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #11

I have heard Ken used too. And Chad. fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #15

Chads are frat fuck-boys, and are nothing like a Karen. Matt Gaetz would be a Chad. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #31

I have to bring up hanging when you say "Chad." rzemanfl May 2020 #67

Yeah, cause we all need more names to call people. Tipperary May 2020 #16

Where? Who? LakeArenal May 2020 #35

The mild form used to be called busybodies. Lars39 May 2020 #6

100% agree obamanut2012 May 2020 #7

unattractive, middle aged, frumpy looking "bitch" DBoon May 2020 #44

Yep. LakeArenal May 2020 #48

I get Becky qwlauren35 May 2020 #10

I've wondered about that myself, it's bothered me, too. It's a fairly common name. Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #12

If this is the thing that "bugs the daylights out of you" then you need to pay more attention SoonerPride May 2020 #19

Thanks, but I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #28

Shit is not mutually exclusive, and sometimes shit is shit. LakeArenal May 2020 #36

Exactly. I don't understand this latest poutrage. fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #37

Poutrage. Got it. Thanks for your input. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #121

I think it started out,... magicarpet May 2020 #21

The woman you are talking about is named Stephanie, and it was in North Carolina whopis01 May 2020 #25

No retraction if their statement I bet. LakeArenal May 2020 #51

Of course not. whopis01 May 2020 #144

Well they won't get get a knee to the neck until they die. ismnotwasm May 2020 #23

So you don't care. But a lot of us do. LakeArenal May 2020 #38

I'm saying I've been aware of the trend for THREE years ismnotwasm May 2020 #53

Very condescending. LakeArenal May 2020 #55

Ok ismnotwasm May 2020 #68

Yeah why stand up for small divisiveness when you have the big stuff to consider. LakeArenal May 2020 #70

Hahahahahaha ismnotwasm May 2020 #73

But but ..... just using Karen is so compact womanofthehills May 2020 #57

Oh brother. The "I'm not sexist I have a friend named that" card. LakeArenal May 2020 #62

I agree malaise May 2020 #24

Now that is what I grew up with! Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #29

The South and the Caribbean have some shared sayings malaise May 2020 #50

Yes, they do! Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #72

Sometimes Miss Thing isn't little malaise May 2020 #139

Ha ha ha !!!!! Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #141

Yes yes. Maybe Ms. Thing tho. LakeArenal May 2020 #39

We can have Miss, Mrs and Ms Thing malaise May 2020 #47

Good idea. LakeArenal May 2020 #52

This! aquamarina May 2020 #92

YUP obamanut2012 May 2020 #102

+1 That one works well. nt crickets May 2020 #136

I'm so sorry this offends you Alpeduez21 May 2020 #26

It's a pet peeve. Lots of things offend me, this isn't one of them. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #30

So condescending. LakeArenal May 2020 #41

+1 Not cool at all. lagomorph777 May 2020 #60

❣️ LakeArenal May 2020 #65

Pointing out white priviledge is not the same as smearing everybody with a certain name. lagomorph777 May 2020 #58

Why are you treating the OP like this????? obamanut2012 May 2020 #101

Pretty typical of people who love and defend the Karen meme kcr May 2020 #115

I don't care what this person thinks. Don't let him or her bother you. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #117

fwiw, my wife, who happens to be white, doesn't mind it at all bigtree May 2020 #49

An Faux pas May 2020 #54

Gen-X white lady here, it doesn't bother me. BusyBeingBest May 2020 #74

the only Karen I know is black Skittles May 2020 #130

If it was ANY woman's name there would be outrage by some. MicaelS May 2020 #76

Exactly. Using any given name for this purpose is immoral and is acting like the thing it calls out lagomorph777 May 2020 #108

Racist white woman syndrome. MicaelS May 2020 #112

Absolutely. lagomorph777 May 2020 #119

Kicking cause I just realized this is the equivalent of an Olive Garden thread ismnotwasm May 2020 #77

Hmmm...not seeing the equivalency so thanks for dropping by? Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #80

You welcome baby ismnotwasm May 2020 #122

Hmmm, also not a fan of that dimunitive. The purpose was what exactly? Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #124

Yeah, no, it isn't obamanut2012 May 2020 #98

Been with DU since the beginning. You're wrong. kcr May 2020 #116

So you don't believe that's it's a topic with passionate opinions that ultimately don't matter? ismnotwasm May 2020 #123

So it inspires you to share your opinions that ultimately don't matter. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #125

Same here. "Karen" and "Kevin" are devices to spread blame Hortensis May 2020 #78

Spare me. SoonerPride May 2020 #83

Actually, I was speaking against racism, and hypocrisy, among Hortensis May 2020 #86

+1 "Karen" or "Kevin" epithets are the essence of stereotyping and bigotry. lagomorph777 May 2020 #109

You know there are many black Karens Sunsky May 2020 #82

It's just a new way to call a woman a bitch. Mosby May 2020 #85

Thank you so much for saying this obamanut2012 May 2020 #96

As a person whose real name always elicits jokes, the same jokes decade after decade... NNadir May 2020 #91

I'm just glad they stopped using the "Patty" moniker. PassingFair May 2020 #111

I don't think you're missing anything. kcr May 2020 #113

Labels short circuit critical thinking. Midnight Writer May 2020 #114

Good point Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #118

So does Twitter, by reducing every issue to a soundbite. NNadir May 2020 #126

We are today facing the consequences of "labeling" in MN. Midnight Writer May 2020 #131

Also for those interested ismnotwasm May 2020 #127

I know three People named Karen. pwb May 2020 #132

So people should have used Kate instead. n/t MicaelS May 2020 #135

Debbie Downer, too... eh? LanternWaste May 2020 #133

Honestly, not a fan of anything you've listed either. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #142

Yeah, I don't like it, either.. Cha May 2020 #138