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undergroundpanther

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Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:22 PM Sep 2012

The food Nazi's in New york just pissed me off.. [View all]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/new-york-approves-soda-ban-big-sugary-drinks_n_1880868.html


If it were That easy...to lose weight as in that commonly believed but incredibly ignorant calories in/out model we'd all be thin.If Soda was the culprit of the obesity problem..

People who think the calorie in and out model works all the time like some math equation,they have no idea the complexities of changing a body metabolism. A lot of fat people eat LESS than thin people do. Diets FAIL,at a 98% rate. There are MANY factors at work causing obesity ,pollutants,viruses,abuse...the list of possible causitive factors is long.
Why can people who drink super big gulps often seem to not gain weight from it?


If diets worked there wouldn't be so many of them being promoted like a magic health solutions.If dieting actually worked and nobody would be fat.Nobody would regain it after using the regimen for months or years.

Yet the fat phobes still continue giving unwanted sanctimonious advice to the overweight as if they KNOW why fat people get fat,is is fucking rude.
Our narcissistic, vain, body/status obsessed and superficial society piles on that all pervasive pressure to conform,suffer to be beautiful,reduce calorie intake exercise more and more and become become food obsessed,until you are scared to eat things, scared to miss the gym because of the burning soul killing humiliation that fat people face,daily. Social pressures,fat bigotry, ignorance that some people have about fat people is abusive and toxic to well being,self acceptance and growing into as a culture, the accepting of body differences in a diverse world.


Fat Bigots are as toxic as racism,homophobia or any other bigotry. But right now browbeating the "fatties" is a hateful bigotry our society now accepts.
It even legislates against food they imagine fat people eat. Soda..what next chips,butter, what will be the next"evil"food to fear?What excuse to control,blame fat people,than no one will have freedom to eat as free people anymore. The saddest thing is this kind of nanny tactic was promoted by the Nazis. Nazis idolized the fit Aryan body, the ancient Greek model of physical perfection. The vain feared fat in the Reich to the point whipped cream was seen as the devil itself. The Nazi's restricted what the people ate 'for their own good' in Nazi Germany. Nazis believed your own body was not really yours.It belonged to the state. Do you wish to be owned and belong to the state,or the City of New York?
Even if limiting soda intake is healthy do you want the LAW of New York City make you by force limit how much sugary shit you can drink in one cup.?

Right now fat bigot politicians , fat bigot busybodies trying to warn fat people of their horrid 'lifestyle choices',and fat bigoted people can get away with such stupid shit . People have internalized a lot of the Nazi belief system without even realizing it. Doesn't matter if you are on the left or right nowadays,there is idealogical overlap..

Maybe one day people will become more sensitized to others situations and care about others well being without the force of law and trying to dominate or control them. Maybe one day the haters, they won't get away with it anymore because society won't tolerate bigots bullshit no matter whom is targeted..Maybe the promotion of the failure called calories in/out will finally be shown to the to be the failure it really is to all these simplistic thinkers and vain and sanctimonious people. Not all overweight people eat tons of junk food drink humongous sodas or fast food all day.

I'm fat,I don't drink sodas,I don't use sugar, Don't eat white rice,or white bread,I do everything in moderation yet my bodies set-point never budges faster for me.
If I diet and I yo yo so I end up fatter,than BEFORE the diet because my bodies set-point drops even further lower.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/15/health-yo-yo-dieting-does-not-affect-weight-loss_n_1778118.html

I learned this by DIETING.A.K.A calorie reduction 1,200 calories to be exact, and I passed out in the weight watchers meeting..I wasn't getting enough food.The starvation study I linked to below had people eating 1,500 calories..

So I gave up on calorie in calorie out dieting,and I haven't gotten any fatter.But the damage is done.

This soda legislation in New York is Fat Bigotry motivated by that same bigoted assumption that fat people use more resources than other people do.I see A LOT of thin people drinking super big gulps nobody looks with disgust at them chugging all that sugar..And over time they sometimes don't gain weight. Did the Lucky sperm club give some people superior metabolic rate? Blessed with a fast metabolism that uses the calories you eat so you don't have weight issues? Lucky fucky you.. BTW don't tell me how to feed myself.I eat healthier than most thin people do even on my cheesy budget. and I HATE Nazi's so I am aware of their tactics and belief systems.

Read this it's the Minnesota starvation study.
A lot of people have been burned by calorie reduction and the yo yo shit..
This may be why we have ENTIRE channels on TV just on One topic,all about FOOD.

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/135/6/1347.full

And look at the media,and everyone is thin,look how fat people are scorned or made the butt of a joke.As if being fat was worse than being a mean abusive asshole.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-175210/Six-year-old-tried-slim-knife.html

http://www.boston.com/community/moms/blogs/child_caring/2010/04/_normal_0_false_12.html

Nazi connection to food regulation...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1347695

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In this society laundry_queen Sep 2012 #1
Yeah Vitamin D undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #4
I'm coming at this from a completely direction, but I completely agree. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #2
everyone undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #40
IMO I think it's more accpetable to criticize skinny people than fat people SilveryMoon Sep 2012 #3
You see it online xmas74 Sep 2012 #7
Comments about underweight strangers, quite a bit. SilveryMoon Sep 2012 #14
I live in a college town xmas74 Sep 2012 #18
I gotta say, my experiences are somewhat different SilveryMoon Sep 2012 #25
I agree,XMas74 fat people do get most of the public humiliation... undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #16
I posted above on this. xmas74 Sep 2012 #21
He/She needz to eatz a cheezburger snooper2 Sep 2012 #59
There is a skinny person I know undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #9
LOL Marrah_G Sep 2012 #69
the term "anorexic" gets thrown around -- basically saying 'if you a thin you are crazy' KurtNYC Sep 2012 #77
Different ppl have different genetical make ups, we cant all look the same, its so stupid! darkangel218 Sep 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #6
I think there's more science than bigotry behind it bhikkhu Sep 2012 #8
same thing was told to us, when allowed only certain ratios of food / day darkangel218 Sep 2012 #10
Health is in the mind first bhikkhu Sep 2012 #12
Actually undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #13
Yes, I've read those studies too bhikkhu Sep 2012 #22
HFCS is Cheeper than sugar.HFCS = more profits. undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #24
I drink sodas made with stevia all the time... Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #68
No, the ban doesn't apply to diet sodas. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #74
I see this from a different - anti-corporatism angle hollysmom Sep 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #15
Darkangel you got that right.. undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #19
Let's Riot, Break A Few Windows otohara Sep 2012 #17
Riot is not the answer. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #20
It took a doctor to convince me otohara Sep 2012 #34
number one in greed undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #38
That Too...Another GOOD Reason otohara Sep 2012 #41
Otohara undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #23
Sounds like the Ron Paul-libertarian argument. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #26
Sorry but your arguments dont hold. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #27
The RIGHT to a minimum wage, has nothing to do with the BAN on xl sugary drinks. n/t darkangel218 Sep 2012 #28
But there is no "RIGHT" to buy or sell large sugar drinks, NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #30
Most liberals believe the government has an interest in promoting the general welfare -- even a duty NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #36
are you attacking/ mislabaling my political stand only because you disagree with my point of view? darkangel218 Sep 2012 #43
I didn't attack you. I said your argument sounds like Milton Friedman's. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #48
Yeah, that's the standard MO JoeyT Sep 2012 #49
Wow. Are you saying that we can only do things allowed to us by the government? PavePusher Sep 2012 #91
Uhh, no. Not in the least. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #92
Beat that strawman, show it who's boss. JoeyT Sep 2012 #45
And your argument sounds like one from Milton Friedman, NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #47
So if the government JoeyT Sep 2012 #50
So you think the government doesn't have a duty to promote the general welfare NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #52
Absolutely, they do. JoeyT Sep 2012 #53
"Airbags don't restrict anyone's ability to do anything" NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #54
That's the same argument JoeyT Sep 2012 #55
Maybe it should be banned! NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #56
Man I hope not. JoeyT Sep 2012 #57
That kind of attitude leads to a paternalistic police state. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #60
Hysterical. Nobody is being "oppressed". NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #79
It's Like Getting Mad at Obama otohara Sep 2012 #32
no I am No libertarian.I like to make my own choices about what I eat tho. undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #33
Did you know that anger causes you to gain weight? jberryhill Sep 2012 #31
Being traumatized has a direct link to weight gain.. undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #35
Getting worked up about my weight really makes me want to smoke jberryhill Sep 2012 #37
Why are you acting like a jerk? Just skip the thread. Why the need to be rude? Sad. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #39
when you hit a nerve undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #42
Goodnight undergraunpanther. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #44
Great point! Just get so tired of Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #58
Last thought..and goodnight. undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #46
That's because like most crappy arguments, JoeyT Sep 2012 #51
Would you say anti-smoking and anti-drinking campaigns are based on bigotry as well? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #61
Yeah tama Sep 2012 #81
So claiming alcohol/tobacco cause major public health issues 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #85
Who says so? tama Sep 2012 #88
Well you just did 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #90
No, you did :) tama Sep 2012 #95
I said: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #96
I and I said :) tama Sep 2012 #101
I think Fat Phobia is another form of bashing the poor. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #62
I am so sick of the argument that you need to have money to eat a healthy diet nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #72
I don't think government should tell people what to eat/drink, I also think snooper2 Sep 2012 #63
the first thing the Nazis did Enrique Sep 2012 #64
They 'limited' the size of the Jewish population. randome Sep 2012 #86
It's not just obesity. The ban is widely supported by health professionals. Here's why: redqueen Sep 2012 #65
First they came for the smokers in restaurants, Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #66
LOL! There's nowhere TO go with that. randome Sep 2012 #71
By calling them Nazi's you lose the rest of the argument by default Marrah_G Sep 2012 #67
The OP also needs to beware of the apostrophe Nazi's (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #73
Agreed. Alduin Sep 2012 #84
This entire thread is hilarious. Where do you get the idea that anyone says losing weight is easy? randome Sep 2012 #70
It's the genetic lottery, basically. Dash87 Sep 2012 #75
It often depends on your age, though. randome Sep 2012 #76
I never ever order a soda HappyMe Sep 2012 #78
But no one is telling you how much to drink. randome Sep 2012 #80
That's just it. HappyMe Sep 2012 #89
Common sense didn't bring down traffic fatalities. Safety laws did. randome Sep 2012 #93
I just hope that the goal posts HappyMe Sep 2012 #94
I don't think limiting soda size will lead to that kind of fascism. randome Sep 2012 #97
I wonder if Upton Sinclair wrote about your Food Nazis in 'The Jungle'... LanternWaste Sep 2012 #82
A 20 ounce soda has 280 calories. Alduin Sep 2012 #83
C'mon, everyone knows you can eat whatever you want nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #87
I know, right? Alduin Sep 2012 #98
is it really a ban if you can still go down to the 7-eleven for a giga gulp? frylock Sep 2012 #99
A guide to surviving New York City SOS Sep 2012 #100
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