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Bucky

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Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:16 AM Apr 2020

You can't judge a trend by just a few data points, but this isn't good news... [View all]

I've been following the numbers at World-O-meter. Com.

For the 6 days before yesterday there'd been a pretty steady drop in mortality rate, nationally speaking. Since April 21 there had been a pretty steady drop in covid-19 deaths. Then it suddenly jumped yesterday, the 28th.

4/21 - 2683 (mortality peak)
4/22 - 2358
4/23 - 2340
4/24 - 1957
4/25 - 2065
4/26 - 1156
4/27 - 1384
4/28 - 2470 (sudden upswing of 900 Covid 19 deaths)

Of course there's always slight variations in the overall trend. Mathematicians call that statistical clustering. But a jump of almost 900 additional deaths from the day before is what you'd expect to see with an increasing trend.

Now, this may just be a one-day outlier datapoint. But it's something to watch carefully. It seems to echo a similar upswing in new cases being reported from a few days earlier (which is, of course, a less reliable statistic because of the large numbers of CV and Covid19 cases not being tested and verified). But the new confirmed confections count looks like this:

4/17 - 32,368 (peak 2)
4/18 - 29,079
4/19 - 26,113
4/20 - 28,131
4/21 - 26,084
4/22 - 30,156
4/23 - 31,888
4/24 - 38,958 (peak 3)
4/25 - 35,419
4/26 - 26,509
4/27 - 23,196
4/28 - 25,409

So there were two national peaks followed by a general downward trend.

Now, the national "peak resource use" had been projected for April 14. This would be a few days after a big infection peak on April 9 & 10 (when there are 34,000 new cases confirmed on each day). And then came these two last peaks.

So there are two possibilities: 1, that Wednesdays are the days most sick people get tested, since the peak date are all hump days. Or 2, that we've exceeded the projected peak twice now in the 2 weeks following Easter Sunday. That was when the anti-lockdown protests began. But more importantly it's when the chatter about "opening up the economy" began.

If it was just new confirmed covid-19 cases, that might be accounted for by an increase in testing. And obviously there is a lag of a week or two from new infection to dying. However the mortality count now saw this sudden jump.

So, if yesterday's sudden spike above 2400 deaths is part of a trend rather than a statistical outlier, we might be seeing the beginning of the effects of some people taking the stay-at-home orders less seriously.


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NY uses a 3-day rolling average PSPS Apr 2020 #1
Of course confirmed infections and new deaths are on different schedules Bucky Apr 2020 #2
Maybe a lag in reporting? Hav Apr 2020 #5
That's a good question. Bucky Apr 2020 #6
Crap, posted this earlier ... Germany & italy going through similar effex 2 weeks post let up (link) uponit7771 Apr 2020 #3
Do you think that's what a flattened curve is? Bucky Apr 2020 #4
Don't know, I just know Germany and Italy let up on the SIP measures and their relative Ro went up uponit7771 Apr 2020 #9
I would say the numbers jump more due to reconciliation of deaths, especiallu over a weekend. beachbumbob Apr 2020 #7
yup obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #14
I think the UK number being reported today is perfect example of a reconciliation effort beachbumbob Apr 2020 #17
Since so many governmental leaders Chainfire Apr 2020 #8
GA and the other opened redneck-governed states will party for two weeks lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #10
Every single state in the US is a "redneck state" obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #15
I've corrected my headline per your comment. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #16
Isn't that an upswing of nearly 1100 deaths, rather than nearly 900? sl8 Apr 2020 #11
Math am hard Bucky Apr 2020 #19
The daily death numbers are not really "daily." The Tuesday number seems to jump to account for greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #12
Have you seen this study? Danascot Apr 2020 #13
Thanks. Will read this closely Bucky Apr 2020 #21
There's a weekly trend of 2 'low' days reported on Sunday and Monday, then a high Tuesday muriel_volestrangler Apr 2020 #18
Okay, I see that. Bucky Apr 2020 #20
Addendum: Talking Points Memo has used a 7 day average, separating New York from the rest of the USA muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #22
Thanks. TPM is a treasure Bucky May 2020 #23
Not to disparage you or your analysis, but none of your numbers can be counted on since Yavin4 May 2020 #24
This was discussed up thread. Bucky May 2020 #25
"good enough" should not be the standard for a global pandemic given our modern technology Yavin4 May 2020 #26
In an ideal world, I would agree. But we don't live in a laboratory world Bucky May 2020 #28
Other nations have national standardized testing Yavin4 May 2020 #29
What they DON'T have is a government run by a fuckwit. Read this Bucky May 2020 #30
Speaking of TPM, they've just reposted this twitter from an Obama sci advisor Bucky May 2020 #27
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