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DFW

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Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:40 AM Apr 2020

It seems the Trumpanzees are divided into three camps at the moment. Beware them all. [View all]

Those who fear he might be losing it and those who fear he has already lost it altogether. There is already the dwindling, but solid faction that is convinced that Trump can say no wrong, even if he starts speaking exclusively in Navajo.

This is as opposed to us, who were pretty sure he never had it to begin with.

It is sort of a less drastic scenario than what appears to be going on right now in North Korea. Keep your loyalty to a man who might be a vegetable for the rest of his life (however long that might be), and risk getting killed by his successor, or risk tossing your loyalty in with his successor, only to be killed when he wakes up.

If Trump continues deteriorating mentally at the pace he is now, the Republicans will find they are NOT in the same place they were at in 2008. Well before 2008, it was clear that the next president would be a Democrat, so the Republicans quietly made plans to sabotage the upcoming Democratic presidency with Citizens United, which was ready to go even before Obama's inauguration.

I am convinced that before the Corona Crisis, the Republicans figured there was enough electoral fraud in place to give Trump a second term, no matter how poorly he fared in the popular vote. After all, if they could pull it off after losing the popular vote by three million, they had their strategy down. Locked and loaded. They had their majority on the Supreme Court ready to come down on their side in case it came to that. Roberts may have thrown the country the occasional bone on a social issue or two, but he isn't about to rock the very boat that made him Chief Justice in the first place.

But two chinks have appeared in the previously impregnable armor of the Republican electoral Goliath. First is Trump's fading ability to convince his own fanatics that he can do and say no wrong. If people drink Clorox because he says it's a good idea, they don't get eight months to disassociate themselves from the harmful effects. They are immediate, and if the family breadwinner suddenly dies in front of you four minutes after doing what Trump recommended, it's enough for a big headline nationally.

Which brings me to chink number two: Fox "News." Remember during the Vietnam war, when LBJ said, "if I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America?" Fox does its level best 24/7 to convince the country that Republicans can do no wrong, and Democrats can do no right. Just like during the Soviet era, the daily newspaper "Pravda" displayed on page one every day "Organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the USSR." Fox "News" is an organ of the Republican Party. Not the figureheads, but the background people who profit immensely when government decisions go their way. These are the people who were sitting pretty in January when the Dow was peaking, and the statistics they were presenting to their shareholders justified their immense compensation.

Well, now, the Dow has suffered a serious double digit drop, and unemployment, which was proudly claimed to be under 5%, is now at five times that. Depression era levels. The budget deficit, already through the roof, is heading for the next planet. Currency devaluation, the screen behind which countries like Italy and Greece used to hide before the Euro, is not really an option. We can't devalue the dollar against the dollar, although we could theoretically devalue against a newly adopted gold standard. But the price of gold would then jump to $5000 or $10,000 and ounce, and people would be held up at gunpoint for their wedding rings.

Fox USED to be a deficit hawk. They are slowly allowing not just criticism of Trump, but serious trashing of him (better late than never, I hear from the ranks). This is his last bastion. If Sean Insanity finally admits on the air his pal is ripe for the loony bin, then Trump will have his Cronkite moment, even if he has no clue who Walter Cronkite was. Trump wouldn't care about losing Middle America, of course. He would only care about whether or not he would soon be liable for prosecution.

So, the biggest political spectator sport, now that Joe Biden is our candidate, is watching how far Trump's antics have to go off the deep end before the powers (both foreign and domestic, as the saying goes) that support him pull the plug.

Again, this is not 2008. Six weeks ago, no Republican mover and/or shaker envisioned this scenario. In 2006, they knew a Democrat was going to be inaugurated in 2009. This time, their timetable is all upset. Panic time in Republicanland. Like wounded jackals, they won't give up easily, and will be meaner than ever, but I think deep down, more of them than ever know that they go down in November if things don't reverse dramatically and quickly (they won't).

As for us Democrats, I recommend taking a page from their book, for once. Strike at every weakness, because they are now at their most dangerous. They will be back to spread their poison every opportunity they get from here on in. Watch for it. It's coming.

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Strike fast and hard, and never let up. dalton99a Apr 2020 #1
I don't see where we have any other option DFW Apr 2020 #2
No. It's delusional to think Republicans will ditch Trump or somehow commit suicide and disappear dalton99a Apr 2020 #3
Well, we sold them on coming out and protesting! StClone Apr 2020 #45
On that exact same page with you. blm Apr 2020 #4
Cogent! Newest Reality Apr 2020 #5
K & R Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #6
Put On Boots ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #7
Recommended. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #8
Three camps? You mention two at the start but if there is a third it is buried somewhere. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #9
I think third is the North Korea-like cult who will never quit him. cp Apr 2020 #13
Maybe I could have expressed myself clearer. Try this. DFW Apr 2020 #14
Thx. I think #3, the core, are in for life. The other two are leaking voters away, to not vote Nov. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #26
#3 is where limbaugh comes in - a genius at making excuses and rationalizing the certainot Apr 2020 #48
Well said. So true. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #52
Well said, DFW. K&R crickets Apr 2020 #10
Example of R's getting meaner, look to Wisconsin's R legislators cp Apr 2020 #11
yep. Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #25
K & R. nt iluvtennis Apr 2020 #12
Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #15
The GOP and the others who enabled Trump Are not likely to leave quietly. Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #16
I like bdamomma Apr 2020 #38
Will that be rare or well done? Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #40
for them bdamomma Apr 2020 #54
trump's recent tweets to his cult: "I never called it a hoax, I'm the king of ventilators & testing; AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2020 #17
The optimist in me sees: Thunderbeast Apr 2020 #18
Exactly the way I've been thinking.....we're gonna win BIG KS Toronado Apr 2020 #29
You hear words along the lines of "I'm starting to worry about Trump" from country club Republicans sandensea Apr 2020 #19
This is a very good, thorough analysis, my dear DFW. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2020 #20
K&R gademocrat7 Apr 2020 #21
speaking Navajo? DBoon Apr 2020 #22
When they go low (is there any other way for the Rs?) kick them in the nutz. Twice. OMGWTF Apr 2020 #23
Code-Talkers served a purpose. Who knew it might be in vain? Irony, indeed! czarjak Apr 2020 #24
Thanks for your analysis --- question: diva77 Apr 2020 #27
I see their weaknesses as falling into two categories DFW Apr 2020 #42
The Republicans are not going to pass laws against their own live love laugh Apr 2020 #50
Agreed. We need Congressional and SCOTUS majorities to get that done DFW Apr 2020 #51
Expect Biden hearings, hell maybe even worse from Senate repugs in 3...2...1 lark Apr 2020 #28
Well stated. brush Apr 2020 #30
Actually, methinks BaronChocula Apr 2020 #31
Excellent post. K&R Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #32
My gods I hope we Dems can muster the killer instinct it will take. Hekate Apr 2020 #33
Kick 'em while they're down Blue Owl Apr 2020 #34
F'ing on target! Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #35
When you have them down, put your heel on ther neck and rotate. The Wizard Apr 2020 #36
K & R Excellent.. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #37
Excellent post bdamomma Apr 2020 #39
They will be coming at Biden with every negative, imagined, real or made up. quakerboy Apr 2020 #41
That is exactly what I meant by "attack every weakness." DFW Apr 2020 #43
K and R because it looks like DFW has made a solid case. oasis Apr 2020 #44
K&R n/t Kitchari Apr 2020 #46
Republicans are like the lobsters in the pot randr Apr 2020 #47
The danger is: DFW Apr 2020 #49
Been saying this for years. WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2020 #53
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