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LiberalLovinLug

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71. I don't understand how I am strawmanning(?)
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:05 PM
Apr 2020

I was giving reasons for why I would make a comment. One of which is when I see is a lopsided attack on a Democrat rep, who just happens to be regarded as in the leftwing of the party. I used AOC as an example. I can admit I made a mistake in that I thought there were examples of this in this very thread, but it was another DU thread where this was going on that I had just visited. So I apologize, if bringing up AOC seemed out of the blue. No pun intended.

Its really not as complicated as you make it out. No need to get so defensive. Like I said, my comments are not to "bait" anyone. Its just to get "the other side of the story" represented for other readers, if I see a need for that. It is a discussion board after all. And in fact I get along with most people here. I've had terrific interactions. And in other groups. Its only a handful I keep running into and getting myself in trouble with. You make a great sparring partner. That's a compliment. I'm trying to back out of this nicely. Reiterating that we both want Trump out, Democrats in. I thought Sanders had the best shot to do that. You don't agree, that's fine. We move forward with Biden. Nobody's perfect, not even AOC or Sanders. Go Blue Go!

*We've been here before, and not that long ago. elleng Apr 2020 #1
+1 and Kick and recommend OP bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #4
only reason republicans stay even close anywhere but reddest states is dem and left certainot Apr 2020 #19
+1000 BadgerMom Apr 2020 #23
"it is yelling HOAX in a covid theater" - excellent metaphor erronis Apr 2020 #28
Well since we know DownriverDem Apr 2020 #24
Step 1 - Assure Voting Rights are bullet-proof. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #2
First thing we need to do is STOP saying Republicans want Small Government. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #3
They want all that Pantagruel Apr 2020 #7
The purported reason? Lower taxes. The real reason? Destroy social programs... Caliman73 Apr 2020 #11
there's evidence that the russians pumped up the teabags certainot Apr 2020 #22
Not sure that they plan to saddle "their" kids/grandkids with the bill. erronis Apr 2020 #29
Like major cuts to Social Security and Medicare? Odawg Apr 2020 #35
Their idea of small government is one branch instead of three world wide wally Apr 2020 #27
No it isn't. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #32
Excellent post! You've nailed it. (nt) scarletwoman Apr 2020 #36
Right on the money!! bluestarone Apr 2020 #60
Correct. Their "golden age to go back to" has been... JHB Apr 2020 #61
Of course they don't want small government. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #38
Yet we fall into their framing of the argument ALL the time. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #44
You're correct! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #46
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #49
Good article wryter2000 Apr 2020 #5
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine Metro135 Apr 2020 #12
That applied only to broadcast channels and was sometimes a 1-2 min editorial SharonAnn Apr 2020 #21
a new FD is impossible and not necessary. even 'free speechers' here think the talk radio certainot Apr 2020 #30
Break up conglomerates; create an FCC that works for us instead of the oligarchs. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #54
K&R n/t handmade34 Apr 2020 #6
Slaying the Republican beast will require Dems to do things once considered unimaginable, such as Jake Stern Apr 2020 #8
I would not attempt to do those things until and unless we've achieved widespread defeat of Repugs scarletwoman Apr 2020 #9
I would be very careful about attempting to pack the SCOTUS. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #47
K&R dmr Apr 2020 #10
Take the Senate and kill the fillibuster for starters. Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #13
Absolutely! Electing a Dem president won't work unless we take the Senate also. scarletwoman Apr 2020 #15
The GOP will scream about deficits the moment Biden is sworn in. SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #14
We HAVE to take the Senate, that's all there is to it! (nt) scarletwoman Apr 2020 #16
Let them scream while pointing out over and over WHO put those deficits there. crickets Apr 2020 #18
Yeah, like that's been working the last 50 years or so... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #20
We will look forward, not backward. theaocp Apr 2020 #17
You nailed it. Shipwack Apr 2020 #45
I don't think he's that obtuse Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #58
Sanders, Warren, and Schiff have shown Dems how to stand up and fight cp Apr 2020 #25
When they go low (which is all they know), kick them in the 'nads. Repeatedly. OMGWTF Apr 2020 #37
Go straight for the heart of the beast. Which is pure artifice. JudyM Apr 2020 #51
"to assume that the public will naturally come to realize...." LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #26
Bravo, bravo. Many good points. erronis Apr 2020 #31
Great post! It's been infuriating for years, to watch Repug strategists run rings around Democrats. scarletwoman Apr 2020 #33
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #48
Too true. I wish I knew an answer to that. I wish you were a Democratic Party consultant. scarletwoman Apr 2020 #50
"I wish you were a Democratic Party consultant" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #53
Excellent Post! OMGWTF Apr 2020 #40
In a way, small government is the only thing saving us. AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #34
It is not foolish to think the public realizes that a strong safety net and standingtall Apr 2020 #39
Exactly. The Dem's job is to relentlessly remind the public what the republicans really stand for. scarletwoman Apr 2020 #43
First time President Biden flubs a word, right wing will be on fire with "25th AMENDMENT" and it BamaRefugee Apr 2020 #41
Yes. It would have been Hillary to wear that badge LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #52
Bernie has his own baggage, and his reputation is certainly not blemish free. ehrnst Apr 2020 #56
"Works both ways" principle LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #63
You know, pointing out facts isn't "an angle" or an "attack," just because it ehrnst Apr 2020 #64
Never heard the term "angle of attack" before? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #65
And more of the same...plus a shot across the bow ehrnst Apr 2020 #66
Wow! did I do all that? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #67
I'm not baiting, I'm pointing out logical fallacies you are using when you use them. ehrnst Apr 2020 #68
For the most part, I feel I do the same as your title line for your latest post LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #69
You keep confirming my observations with each post. ehrnst Apr 2020 #70
I don't understand how I am strawmanning(?) LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #71
And once again, you keep on substantiating my observations... ehrnst Apr 2020 #72
It really was nice sparring with you. Maybe nice is the wrong word. Engaging? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #73
Gave up on "backing out nicely," eh? ehrnst Apr 2020 #74
We have to get Biden elected first which is not a given IMHO. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #42
Do you think it's going to be easier (or harder) for them to do that under the circumstances? Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #59
Republicans have been suppressing the vote for years now because it helps them win elections. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #62
They're not going to be that powerful. They are going to be in the position of German Nazis in 1946. NNadir Apr 2020 #55
It is very simple. Our democratic leaders need to stop playing nice. nt Hotler Apr 2020 #57
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