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BlkOrchid58

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164. I agree about the antibody testing. It would certainly explain a lot if we were able to get tested.

Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:11 PM

Apr 2020

Even if it was a different strain, it is worth investigating because those who may have been affected may already have antibodies. All of that data would be useful. I hope we can get to that point soon. Some respiratory therapists, as many others in the medical field, are baffled about the way some people are asymptomatic and are spreading the virus just as much as those who have outward symptoms.

Aside from looking at age brackets, underlying conditions, race and other common factors, it would be good to compare the time lines of those patients who have recovered to those who remain hospitalized or who died as a result of disease. There are so many unanswered questions.

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It's entirely possible that COVID-19 has been circulating [View all] MineralMan Mar 2020 OP

Yeah, well - OhZone Mar 2020 #1

Colds can certainly cause fever. unblock Mar 2020 #36

Colds can cause fevers. n/t whopis01 Mar 2020 #154

Similar situation here. luvs2sing Mar 2020 #2

there was a vid posted recently from a scientist discussing distancing... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #3

Exactly. There are not enough masks for everyone. LisaL Mar 2020 #8

not enough ppe, not enough ventilators, not enough icu beds.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #11

Mask material has bigger openings than size of virus at140 Mar 2020 #105

Was that Chris Martsnson? He's talked about that on YouTube. Sugar Smack Mar 2020 #27

yes... here is the link getagrip_already Mar 2020 #31

Thanks for putting this up! Sugar Smack Mar 2020 #34

Will you please make this it's own op? I would like to bookmark it. Thanks. SaveOurDemocracy Mar 2020 #94

Several days ago I asked the Admin mercuryblues Mar 2020 #106

I went and asked after I posted that, no reply as yet. 😷 SaveOurDemocracy Mar 2020 #150

Fascinating information, thank you! phylny Mar 2020 #156

Sounds similar Dave in VA Mar 2020 #4

The fact thay they're already finding alternatve DNA strands is kind of suspicious... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #5

AFAIK, SARS viruses can and do mutate very rapidly. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #38

No. It doesn't - and no, he is not right. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #63

I was wondering the same thing, but no. jeffreyi Mar 2020 #85

early january, husband I were laid low by same thing babydollhead Mar 2020 #6

I had the flu over christmas. Was odd in that my oxygen level was low in this bout. Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #7

Yep, my wife and I think that she had it as well as our 9 year old daughter. Ace Rothstein Mar 2020 #9

Maybe a test would reveal a previous infection and buildup of corresponding antibodies? DFW Mar 2020 #10

I don't know that they have a test for COVID-19 antibodies yet. Igel Mar 2020 #14

From yesterday's paper in Science: dalton99a Mar 2020 #12

Are you immune? Or... are survivors of COVID19 immune to reinfection? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13

All questions without answers, really. MineralMan Mar 2020 #22

I read that if you become reinfected, you are more likely to die...this virus causes lung damage Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #26

People are not being reinfected -- this has been disproven obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #61

Nothing has been disproved. There are not even antibody tests yet. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #80

My wife and I, and 3 other family members who don't live here, have had empedocles Mar 2020 #15

Thanksgiving week I got something that gor into my lungs lieraly overnight after getting ... marble falls Mar 2020 #16

Exactly what I experienced. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #49

Colds roll in, this came on like instantly - one minute feeling good, the next BANG sick, right? marble falls Mar 2020 #70

Me too MFM008 Mar 2020 #142

I had the same thing right after Thanksgiving and it lasted for about a month. smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #160

My cough lasted until after Christmas, too. Dry but racking. marble falls Apr 2020 #161

Same with me pattyloutwo Mar 2020 #17

Mr. and me.. Zoonart Mar 2020 #118

I think you are right... Phentex Mar 2020 #18

That's the problem with this. There are so many upper respiratory illnesses MineralMan Mar 2020 #25

I was sicker than I've ever been back in Nov. Fever of livetohike Mar 2020 #19

I was too...ended up in hospital...really ill and a forty something woman where my daughter worked Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #23

I read your post re. lyme disease, I was just curious if somehow, lyme disease is related to ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #74

Hi. We live in the woods in northwestern PA where Lyme disease livetohike Mar 2020 #104

Thanks so much. I was shocked and surprised that I too, had lyme disease, didn't even know ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #108

Lyme RobinA Mar 2020 #115

I've had low fever and a slight cough for a month. panader0 Mar 2020 #20

Same here. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #21

Early February, my daughter and her 3 yr old had what dr called cry baby Mar 2020 #24

Could be. Now, we're testing. Earlier, we weren't. MineralMan Mar 2020 #29

Exactly. I wonder if doctors widely knew at the time of the cry baby Mar 2020 #50

Well, they know about coronaviruses in general, since MineralMan Mar 2020 #51

Totally true! cry baby Mar 2020 #56

It was just a cold. I've had dozens of them. MineralMan Mar 2020 #58

You might be able to know if they get a covid-19 test. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #35

Hopefully they'll come up with a test that can pick up cry baby Mar 2020 #44

I was in the hospital in January. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2020 #28

Hmm... MineralMan Mar 2020 #30

I don't like to assume. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2020 #62

Yes. I live in KCMO. nt leftyladyfrommo Mar 2020 #82

If you really did get it and if you have recovered then thank God for your recovery. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #32

Well, if I'm right and it has been around for a while, MineralMan Mar 2020 #37

Week B4 Christmas Here ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #33

No conclusions here. Just questions. MineralMan Mar 2020 #41

Wasn't Accusing MM ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #48

It would be a more pleasant conclusion RhodeIslandOne Mar 2020 #138

Probably So ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #141

I have bronchitis too at times RhodeIslandOne Mar 2020 #147

No Fever ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #148

A round of something similar went around our house in January. Progressive Jones Mar 2020 #39

I had something similar back over xmas, although fever wise, it didn't fit the MO. woodsprite Mar 2020 #40

I was really sick mid January kimbutgar Mar 2020 #42

My neighbors experienced the same thing CanonRay Mar 2020 #43

There's a suspicion that there are two similiar viruses unblock Mar 2020 #45

Wondering the same thing. peacefreak2.0 Mar 2020 #46

I had the same thing and was sick marlakay Mar 2020 #47

My wife brought home something in late December. El Supremo Mar 2020 #52

I had the same mid-January Victory at Yorktown Mar 2020 #53

No, that is simply wishful thinking jberryhill Mar 2020 #54

I will say my husband had what he considered "the flu" in mid-January. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #55

I think I may have had it. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2020 #57

That's the same theory I've been trying to quash in a right wing republican FB "friend" of mine. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #59

Interesting. MineralMan Mar 2020 #67

You can do your own resesarch, but here's a bit of explanation Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #103

Have you ever heard of the "Nobel Prize"? jberryhill Mar 2020 #119

Thanks for that information. MineralMan Mar 2020 #123

From what I've read in Wired, the first cases were noticed in China in November. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #75

Tracing the mutations is not a guess. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #100

I'm not saying the virus didn't have origins in China. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #113

My point isn't the exact timing - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #121

I had the exact same thing, and it was also a very unusual "cold virus" for me to have obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #60

I have a friend with pre-existing severe respiratory ailments Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #64

I was in Lombardy, Italy, in December of last year. mecherosegarden Mar 2020 #65

I wonder about the same thing Nonhlanhla Mar 2020 #66

Not likely, in my opinion. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2020 #68

Well, it first got noticed in China. MineralMan Mar 2020 #69

I think the epidemiological models also point to China as the point of origin. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2020 #71

Yes, it seems so. MineralMan Mar 2020 #78

I keep hearing this-- Lulu KC Mar 2020 #72

No. No it hasn't Amishman Mar 2020 #73

+10000000000000000 Celerity Mar 2020 #155

You may well be correct, but phylny Mar 2020 #157

flu tests have a significant false negative rate, particularly on this past winter's strains Amishman Mar 2020 #158

Thanks for this information! phylny Mar 2020 #159

I had something similar in January. Golden Raisin Mar 2020 #76

I came down with something in early February EarlG Mar 2020 #77

That's the problem, I think, with a lot of this. MineralMan Mar 2020 #83

I had a slight flu in November. LanternWaste Mar 2020 #79

.. MineralMan Mar 2020 #84

It was going around KC during the superbowl uponit7771 Mar 2020 #81

January 6 my whole front desk. 5 people myself included. We had a team of three working at our LizBeth Mar 2020 #86

Interesting... MineralMan Mar 2020 #87

I bet if you were tested for antibodies you would NOT have covid-19 antibodies Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #88

You could certainly be correct. MineralMan Mar 2020 #90

There are MANY coronavirus diseases. SARS was one of them. It means nothing in this context. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author LizBeth Mar 2020 #95

OK... MineralMan Mar 2020 #98

I suspect you're right; however, it wasn't until folks with severe cases Texin Mar 2020 #112

Agree gollygee Mar 2020 #116

I agree, the earliest known case in China has been moved to Nov 17 relayerbob Mar 2020 #89

Could be. I'm really just pointing out that we don't know, because MineralMan Mar 2020 #97

Yep, and the tests don't identify past cases, AFAIK relayerbob Mar 2020 #109

I imagine there will be a test for antibodies. MineralMan Mar 2020 #110

YEs, eventually. I just saw a report that they have isolated the antibodies relayerbob Mar 2020 #126

Good. All of those things take time. MineralMan Mar 2020 #127

Yes, the problem is far less the disease than 45's ineptness relayerbob Mar 2020 #132

I think you may be right matt819 Mar 2020 #91

That would mean we have some immunity Cary Mar 2020 #93

Several friends had it - referred to it as a "zombie" cold jmbar2 Mar 2020 #96

Out of our five we had one were she felt better and then came back too. LizBeth Mar 2020 #101

The folks I knew were also Eugene and Salem jmbar2 Mar 2020 #107

It is. I like how gov and mayor are handling the crisis. But, we are not showing any tested LizBeth Mar 2020 #114

I am assuming it's here and acting accordingly. jmbar2 Mar 2020 #120

Here is a map I am looking at. Not seeing it on the coast. LizBeth Mar 2020 #124

Thanks - I hadn't seen that yet. jmbar2 Mar 2020 #131

I had something similar, but Susan Calvin Mar 2020 #99

Thank you! Jrsygrl96 Mar 2020 #102

I have to add my own story about this PunksMom Mar 2020 #111

Interesting, because I told Mr Nay that I wondered whether I had already had COVID Nay Mar 2020 #117

The worst "flu" I have had JenniferJuniper Mar 2020 #122

Yes, it can be confusing without tests. MineralMan Mar 2020 #125

Exactly... JenniferJuniper Mar 2020 #129

My wife and I... greytdemocrat Mar 2020 #128

I Have No Idea RobinA Mar 2020 #130

China officially notified the WHO December 31. That's Hortensis Mar 2020 #133

Yeah, I remember that. MineralMan Mar 2020 #134

Among the many things we won't know is who actually Hortensis Mar 2020 #135

It was a rather mild illness. I remember it because it was different. MineralMan Mar 2020 #140

Those maps really say it, don't they? At that they're just direct Hortensis Mar 2020 #143

I agree RhodeIslandOne Mar 2020 #136

Elizabeth Warren put out Coronavirus plans in January. blm Mar 2020 #137

wow.... I had the same thing......... Takket Mar 2020 #139

In mid December, an art buyer came to our house WhiteTara Mar 2020 #144

Wow! MineralMan Mar 2020 #145

I think the virus has been around for at least 3 months. WhiteTara Mar 2020 #146

Interesting. MineralMan Mar 2020 #149

Wouldn't surprise me. bearsfootball516 Mar 2020 #151

Ever since hearing about this strain, I started wondering about 2naSalit Mar 2020 #152

I was hit with the same thing in Nov, last year mercuryblues Mar 2020 #153

Is this a similar situation like the Spanish Flu that lasted from January 1818 to December 1919? BlkOrchid58 Apr 2020 #162

It would be interesting to see a chart of respiratory disease deaths MineralMan Apr 2020 #163

I agree about the antibody testing. It would certainly explain a lot if we were able to get tested. BlkOrchid58 Apr 2020 #164