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In reply to the discussion: Since Free Traders believe that America should lower its standard of living to help the third world [View all]eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)5. Shouldn't they start the ball rolling by giving their money to the 1% in other countries?
Nothing beats leading by example, after all.
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Since Free Traders believe that America should lower its standard of living to help the third world [View all]
Zalatix
Jan 2012
OP
and Administrations that "Cook the Books" to say it doesn't harm Americans / America
FreakinDJ
Jan 2012
#29
I actually bought a little manual clothes washer at the thrift store I work at.
Odin2005
Jan 2012
#57
I used one of those for a few years. Worked a treat. I gave it to a relative living in NYC in a
MADem
Jan 2012
#80
I've never understood how any working class person could vote repug. One would think it difficult
SammyWinstonJack
Jan 2012
#21
Shouldn't they start the ball rolling by giving their money to the 1% in other countries?
eppur_se_muova
Jan 2012
#5
I think that they did with the bank bailouts. Some for our 1%. Some for the foreign countries' 1%.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#82
When did Washington become the capital of the world, as opposed to the capital of the U.S.?
Laelth
Jan 2012
#20
Free trade does not improve the quality of life of people living in other countries
JDPriestly
Jan 2012
#33
Tariffs. China uses them against us, we have a right to use them against China.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#112
Let's look at what you previously said, and my questions that you previously avoided
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#122
Then you do not understand the nature of our trade deficit. Allow me to explain, with CITES.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#154
No... your disgusting insult is that we as Progressives should curtail American standards of living
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#49
What about OUR working class? What about us? Why should we go unemployed for this?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#90
We shouldn't. If trade policy is done correctly and fairly is should benefit both sides.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#97
Dear free traders, here are more Americans losing jobs to make the rest of the world a better place.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#16
You see we are makeing their lives better. Just think about those happy people at Foxcon.
wandy
Jan 2012
#24
It is interesting how folks paint essentially slavery as altruistic and "progressive"
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#78
You know, when ever a "centrist" or right-winger says that a certain policy will
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#174
If anyone has forgotten, maybe one of them will remind us by repeating what they said.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#85
no it doesn't.... his point of view on this ISN'T progressive... it is flawed
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#52
Krugman has begun to change his mind on outsourcing, so you're wrong on this, too.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#92
"Krugman's views on free trade have provoked considerable ire from the anti-globalism movement".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#66
Krugman called for a 25% tariff on China. I posted the cite already. That's NOT free trade.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#125
Free Traders are never the Ones lowering their own Standards of living for the World
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#46
The dirty little secret you NEVER hear uttered by the media or pols. n/t
Populist_Prole
Jan 2012
#53
No, because that's an ad hominem argument. But, if that is their position, even a broken clock
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#86
Repubs would hate that idea (the mythical North American Union is a mainstay of bircher fears).
pampango
Jan 2012
#75
There is NO "free trade". World trade is controlled by a cabal of multinational corporations.
AdHocSolver
Jan 2012
#87
that would all be a valid point if "globalization" was improving the quality of life in the third
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#99
it is dishonest to represent the majority as benefiting when that is clearly not the case
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#102
I would suggest taking a trip off the beaten path a little bit and away from the tourist belt
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#104
I certainly do get off the beaten path.. I have relatives in the province far from any major city.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#105
Yes, I think thats correct but from what I understand there are always new contracts.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#109
While there is a "rising middle class" in China and India, the poor are worse off than ever
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#167
Yes, that is true also in the Philippines. Prices of almost everything are going up.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#177
Um, there's no proper way to send American jobs out of the country. None. Zero. Nada.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#186
I suspect the growing middle classes of China and India would probably disagree with you
Spider Jerusalem
Jan 2012
#119
The vast majority of Indians and Chinese are not participating in it except as victims of
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#126
It has everything to do with the topic at hand and yes, you absolutely do know that.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#133
Food crises, pollution, slave labor & child labor are acceptable because "welcome to globalization"?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#138
The top 1-5% of China and India are buying cars - made by slaves and high pollution
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#123
There is a reason why you won't respond to this... my response is even MORE uncomfortable.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#127
Your argument has so many errors, where to start! And can you back up anything with cites? Anything?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#145
We're supposed to be glad because our poor are "better off" than those in India?
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#170
I have actual experience working blue collar jobs and volunteering in programs
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#173
That's what I want to get into more of... community organizing to create jobs, to be specific.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#175
I'm not a one-worlder. I don't want China having a vote on my country's reproductive rights.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#144
These homeless students are making sacrifices to help the poor in other nations...
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#124
Many unemployed will never be able to get another job - thank outsourcing for this!
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#148
I imagine many people rationalize that imaginary, wholly made-up red and black lines...
LanternWaste
Jan 2012
#156
I showed you a lot of America's poor and jobless in this thread. Why don't you tell them that?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#159
Building tariff walls didn't help any country in the 1930's (except Germany but that had more to do
pampango
Jan 2012
#161
There is an example of a nation using tariffs to become rich. And the Smoot-Hawley story is a myth.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#162
Next? Smoot-Hawley was bad republican policy. That much is not a myth. FDR knew it.
pampango
Jan 2012
#163
Sounds like you would have been fighting FDR when he was dismantling tariffs in the 1930's and
pampango
Jan 2012
#178
I see a lot of affluent Americans who have never met a real poor American or
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#172
Look at this very thread. Free Traders FEAR to talk about the poor in Western nations.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#182