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RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
21. One problem: if we secede, THEY own the military.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020

Last time there was secession it was a bit different. Remember, at that time there was no egregiously huge and expensive military ready to roll for the non-seceding side. So both the North and the South had to do some fast and furious recruiting and training.

But this time, Trump would have the military and he'd also have its loyalty, yes he would, to move against secession. As evil as the s.o.b. is, the constitution would be on his side -- and, ipso facto, so would the military that is, after all, sworn to defend it.

By the time the good guys (and don't leave out Maryland! We may have a Republican governor, but he's old school Republican and his Daddy was the first Republican in congress to turn against Nixon) were able to recruit and arm a military of their own, they'd be surrounded, out-manned and pretty much forced to give up.

And then the hangings would begin, probably in large stadia, Afghan style, with thousands of red-hatted fools cheering on the executions. Parallel to the executions would be the appropriation of lands, of businesses, of "treasonous citizens" by the Trump government.

If Trump steals the election, I think best we can do is lay low, do what we can to sabotage the machinery of his corrupt administration, and wait for him to die. That way, his successor might have a difficult time justifying cancelling the next presidential election -- not saying he (Pence again?) might not want to try. But if there were secession, there would not be another election in our lifetime and Trump would pretty much be able to name his own successor to the throne -- Don Jr., or Ivanka?

So, if Trump steals the election, I counsel patience, but with persistent protests that might, over time, erode the power of the Trump oligarchy.

Maybe neither we nor our children would live to see the restoration of America; but there would be a chance, at least a chance, that our grandchildren or great grandchildren might live in a Democratic-Republic once again. Secession would go up in flames and ensure the prolonged authoritarian dictatorship of the fascist corporate leeches.

AMEN!! Ohiogal Feb 2020 #1
Well Said! nt mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #2
DEPLORABLE SHITWEASELS mitch96 Feb 2020 #26
Yes Rider3 Feb 2020 #3
The entire government needs to be rethought, rebuilt and reinforced...in the law, not tradition. Moostache Feb 2020 #4
Beautiful suggestions! Please make it an official post? DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #7
You should post this seperately Soph0571 Feb 2020 #8
Hallelujah !!! MasonDreams Feb 2020 #10
Superb ideas, Moostache! calimary Feb 2020 #12
So you'd have an unelected fourth branch? MosheFeingold Feb 2020 #13
Really not confident about having the "majority mob" mentality voting for AG or others. To me, we Karadeniz Feb 2020 #27
Works so well with judges MosheFeingold Feb 2020 #32
Love this! RobertDevereaux Feb 2020 #18
Please add free transportation to the polling location. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #25
That's good! How about folding chairs and water if voters have to wait hours outside. Karadeniz Feb 2020 #28
The slave-owning Founding Fathers' notions of 18th century "civility" Nature Man Feb 2020 #29
If Dump steals the election, it's secession time folks. roamer65 Feb 2020 #5
One problem: if we secede, THEY own the military. RVN VET71 Feb 2020 #21
The military will split. roamer65 Feb 2020 #23
Or the Founding Fathers. lpbk2713 Feb 2020 #6
Republicans today would have rigged against and executed the Founding Fathers. WyattKansas Feb 2020 #24
They should be ashamed for referring to the Native Americans Nature Man Feb 2020 #30
Kick dalton99a Feb 2020 #9
K&R! gademocrat7 Feb 2020 #11
Upside is cilla4progress Feb 2020 #14
Ditto malaise Feb 2020 #15
I'll add one more thing: Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #16
Fuck that, they need to go to jail nt Soph0571 Feb 2020 #22
No more talk of trying to "get along" with these P O S's by any candidate. brutus smith Feb 2020 #17
or "healing" or "reaching across the aisle" or "moving on" Nature Man Feb 2020 #31
+ 1000! Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author softydog88 Feb 2020 #20
Yep. They have run roughshod over the constitution. n/t PatrickforO Feb 2020 #33
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