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G_j

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Sun Feb 2, 2020, 06:03 PM Feb 2020

When Debate Is Futile: Bertrand Russell's Remarkable Response to a Fascist's Provocation [View all]

https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/10/06/bertrand-russell-oswald-mosley/

“To approach someone else convincingly you must do so with open arms and head held high, and your arms can’t be open unless your head is high,” the Lebanese-born French writer Amin Maalouf wrote in his timeless, increasingly timely reflection on how to disagree. It is in times as divisive as ours and as sundered by conflicting perspectives that the mastery of such intelligent, kind-hearted, and considered disagreement emerges as a supreme art of living. To respond in a reactive culture, to marry firm moral conviction with a spirit of goodwill and the porousness necessary for appraising other perspectives in order to evolve one’s own, is a Herculean feat of character.

And yet there are instances in which it is unsound to engage with another whose values are so antithetical to one’s own that the collision is bound to shatter one’s sanity rather than build common ground. To recognize those rare instances and choose to stand down is an act of moral courage rather than moral weakness, and no one has articulated that difficult courage with more intellectual elegance and moral grace than the great English philosopher Bertrand Russell (May 18, 1872–February 2, 1970) — a formidable intellect animated by an extraordinary generosity of spirit, awarded the Nobel Prize for “his varied and significant writings in which he champions humanitarian ideals and freedom of thought.”


In January of 1962, Russell received a series of letters from an unlikely correspondent — Sir Oswald Mosley, who had founded the British Union of Fascists thirty years earlier. Mosley was inviting — or, rather, provoking — Russell to engage in a debate, in which he could persuade the moral philosopher of the merits of fascism. Russell’s considered and morally unflinching response, included in Ronald Clark’s excellent biography The Life of Bertrand Russell (public library), stands as a manifesto for the right not to engage in a debate with a counterpart so morally misaligned with oneself as to guarantee not only the self-defeating futility of such engagement but its detrimental cost to one’s own sanity.

Shortly before his 90th birthday, Russell writes:

Dear Sir Oswald,

Thank you for your letter and for your enclosures. I have given some thought to our recent correspondence. It is always difficult to decide on how to respond to people whose ethos is so alien and, in fact, repellent to one’s own. It is not that I take exception to the general points made by you but that every ounce of my energy has been devoted to an active opposition to cruel bigotry, compulsive violence, and the sadistic persecution which has characterised the philosophy and practice of fascism.

I feel obliged to say that the emotional universes we inhabit are so distinct, and in deepest ways opposed, that nothing fruitful or sincere could ever emerge from association between us.

I should like you to understand the intensity of this conviction on my part. It is not out of any attempt to be rude that I say this but because of all that I value in human experience and human achievement.

Yours sincerely,


Bertrand Russell
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What an incredibly nice way to tell someone Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #1
Beautiful. liberalmuse Feb 2020 #2
Excellent read! kentuck Feb 2020 #3
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #4
K & R malaise Feb 2020 #5
happy to have stumbled on it G_j Feb 2020 #7
I agree with him 100% malaise Feb 2020 #8
IOW, don't feed the trolls. nt tblue37 Feb 2020 #30
Good one! calimary Feb 2020 #25
Thank you for posting this response. Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #6
Russell is one of my heroes RussBLib Feb 2020 #9
I've read that book a hundred times -- very influential, indeed. nt Nay Feb 2020 #13
One of my favorites, too. paleotn Feb 2020 #17
It guided my thinking for a long time Bob Loblaw Feb 2020 #29
Mine too! burrowowl Feb 2020 #34
Thank you Hekate Feb 2020 #10
Bertrand Russell shared the Earth when I did? underpants Feb 2020 #11
I think I will remove the first two sentences Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #12
Very apt response, by Mr Russell. wendyb-NC Feb 2020 #14
I tried for over 3 years to reason with the MAGA crowd, before admitting defeat at the futility of chia Feb 2020 #15
One of my favorites. paleotn Feb 2020 #16
Talk about genteel! dchill Feb 2020 #18
P.S. And the horse you rode in on. OMGWTF Feb 2020 #19
G_j, can't thank you enough for posting Russell's sagacity. Brilliant! n/t Prof.Higgins Feb 2020 #20
absolutely G_j Feb 2020 #23
K&R PatSeg Feb 2020 #21
Love it. K&R crickets Feb 2020 #22
"cruel bigotry, compulsive violence, and the sadistic persecution" Hortensis Feb 2020 #24
He's a much better person than am I . . . Richard D Feb 2020 #26
SUBPOENA THEM ALL !!! Hulk Feb 2020 #27
Translation: LudwigPastorius Feb 2020 #28
Russell is magnificent. Orrex Feb 2020 #31
I know someone I could send that to Poiuyt Feb 2020 #32
Thank you for posting this today cp Feb 2020 #33
Thanks for this. I'll keep a copy for a time when I might be able to use it myself. Nitram Feb 2020 #35
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