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AA has a subgroup for atheists, or for those who just don't want to bring God into it.
Aristus
Dec 2019
#4
You can't keep the concept of powerlessness out of it, and that's what many object to.
pnwmom
Dec 2019
#69
Addiction is a power. The group power can help overcome the temptation of addiction
OhNo-Really
Dec 2019
#112
Me, too. An older relative swore by AA, but the young one just couldn't connect with it.
pnwmom
Dec 2019
#196
The power of logorrhea aside, I do hope you found something that works for you, personally.
Hekate
Dec 2019
#147
I think that a lot of resistance to AA is from people who don't want to drink
Dorian Gray
Dec 2019
#188
You don't have a problem with alcohol so you go with a closed mind and negativity towards AA. Were
demosincebirth
Dec 2019
#184
The poster calls those people "non-religious fundys" [sic] and "extremist" [sic].
Mariana
Dec 2019
#172
Good point. Although attributing 17+ years of sobriety to AA is a tad more than "casual"
OhNo-Really
Dec 2019
#141
Depends on the locality. There are courts today, that only allow AA. (Because it's free.)
X_Digger
Dec 2019
#148
Thank you for defending AA so well. As the child of an alcoholic who had stayed sober
Atticus
Dec 2019
#3
When a court requires you to enroll in a religious program, there is a problem
jberryhill
Dec 2019
#5
😂😂😂"..there's no room for civil society..". Spit coffee laugh. You surprised me
OhNo-Really
Dec 2019
#98
and there are medical treatments like Naltrexone which are used in other countries
dawg day
Dec 2019
#19
That is interesting. Some smoking-cessation treatment is the same as an antidepressant-
dawg day
Dec 2019
#57
As I read thru this thread & your contributions, it is clear you despise AA. Can you at least...
Hekate
Dec 2019
#156
Speaking as one who has 2 family members (in other parts of the country) who are...
SWBTATTReg
Dec 2019
#203
Alcoholism runs on my mom's side of the family: her dad, one brother, one sister, is a fair sample.
Hekate
Dec 2019
#209
I have known atheists who AA helped. It's having support of others that seems to help.
Hoyt
Dec 2019
#10
Success rate is very low. On the other hand, every success is a gift to be celebrated.
OregonBlue
Dec 2019
#197
I've been to AA meetings and I'm an Atheist. The God shit didn't bother me. nt
UniteFightBack
Dec 2019
#23
Yes, people that AA has helped regain their lives from the tyranny of alcoholism are eager to share
OhNo-Really
Dec 2019
#82
AA has helped millions to stay clean/sober. My take on the higher power is that no one involved with
jalan48
Dec 2019
#25
I'll defer to the comments in this stream written by sober AA atheists/agnostics proponents
OhNo-Really
Dec 2019
#105
But if someone is powerless, defeated, and incapable of anything until they do 90 in 90
Nature Man
Dec 2019
#138
Is there a difference between those who drink too much and those who are physically addicted?
Buckeyeblue
Dec 2019
#55
I get there is a difference but are they lumped in the same category together?
Buckeyeblue
Dec 2019
#87
The Big Book suggests going without drinking for 30 days to make that decision
catrose
Dec 2019
#166
The test: Is/are alcohol/drugs negatively affecting the quality of yours or others lives?
OhNo-Really
Dec 2019
#122
AA wrote in 1935 that there was a difference between heavy drinkers and alcohol use disorder
ismnotwasm
Dec 2019
#131
I totally disagree with ..."a 12 step program that requires adherence to its orhodoxy"
Stuart G
Dec 2019
#169
Thank you. Your last sentence is the real kicker for me. Rehab is hellishly expensive. AA is free...
Hekate
Dec 2019
#139
I can't recall any AAers who didn't accept all the medical help they could afford
catrose
Dec 2019
#168
One modern addiction treatment/methodology is CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy.)
Comatose Sphagetti
Dec 2019
#206
Now sober for 30 years. A.A. was a terrific support group for me for 10+ years.
SharonAnn
Dec 2019
#208