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babylonsister

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Mon Nov 11, 2019, 12:14 PM Nov 2019

The truly frightening thing about Nikki Haley's big revelation [View all]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/politics/nikki-haley-tillerson-mattis-trump/index.html?fbclid=IwAR14_ZYbYXfv-w5xCk8GnHL17AGuObJm-UcL4um9yHLL078bnDmJbJpVM3o

The truly frightening thing about Nikki Haley's big revelation
Chris Cillizza
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 10:51 AM ET, Mon November 11, 2019

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But the focus on Haley -- and what she did or didn't do -- misses the point, which is this: Two of the top Cabinet officials within the Trump administration were concerned enough about the behavior of the President of the United States that they were actively reaching out to other influential members of the Cabinet to actively work around him.

That is a VERY big deal.
Especially when you consider how Tillerson and Kelly came into their jobs.
The former was the head of Exxon, a massive, multinational company. Trump touted Tillerson as the crown jewel of his Cabinet -- a hugely successful and accomplished businessman that only this President could recruit to work for the government.

The latter was a hugely accomplished general who led Southern Command among other gigs in a lifetime spent in the military.

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So consider what it means that within a relatively short period of time, not only had both men identified major concerns with the President, but were so concerned that they were reaching out to others within the administration to try recruit them to a protect-the-country-at-all-costs mission.

You can absolutely question -- as Haley has done -- why Tillerson and Kelly didn't just resign rather than trying to run a persuasion campaign within the White House to sideline the President. (My guess would be that they would say they were worried what might happen if they left.)

But what, to me, is the most important part of the story is that both of these hugely accomplished Cabinet officials, who were hand-picked for their roles by the President and who, presumably, came into the administration favorably inclined to him, so quickly and clearly assessed that the man they were working for was an active danger to the country.

And such a danger that they were in the process of actively recruiting people within the administration to help them keep the President from doing anything that would endanger the country.

Think about that. It's terrifying.
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I agree. N/T. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
agree. AND -- this was a time when "wiser heads" stopdiggin Nov 2019 #43
In other words, quite like she did... PNW-Dem Nov 2019 #44
I believe that Haley voiced her concerns about Trump to Tillerson and Kelly SummerSnow Nov 2019 #2
+1 You're onto something FakeNoose Nov 2019 #5
She could've went to Trump about it in secret, ratted them out. SummerSnow Nov 2019 #10
Do NOT underestimate Nikki Haley. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #52
Dont you think trump wouldve tweeted about it? He cant help himself. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #60
They knew what everyone knew: He is a crazy, dangerous asshole. dalton99a Nov 2019 #3
They knew what DEMOCRATS knew. maxsolomon Nov 2019 #51
One of the few times I've agreed with Chris Cillizza n/t OKNancy Nov 2019 #4
Yup ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #41
High stakes games these days empedocles Nov 2019 #6
Nikki brags about the time she was asked to save her country, and she refused RainCaster Nov 2019 #7
Well said BigOleDummy Nov 2019 #21
Well said, also. But it sounds also like somebody in putin's pay erronis Nov 2019 #45
Yeah, you would think she would keep something like this to herself. LuvNewcastle Nov 2019 #53
Yeah, I don't understand this at all. RainCaster Nov 2019 #54
Validates 'Anonymous' earthside Nov 2019 #8
Its more telling of Haley that she refused to understand and join those two who were trying Perseus Nov 2019 #9
appears ms. haley was just fine with what was going on in the white house spanone Nov 2019 #11
It actually appears to me like Haley is playing both sides of the fence. llmart Nov 2019 #12
Yep awesomerwb1 Nov 2019 #14
Both of these flip floppers need to be kept out of office IronLionZion Nov 2019 #29
I am so hoping for that. llmart Nov 2019 #37
When she resigned her UN xxqqqzme Nov 2019 #31
PLease stop trying to normalize Kelly awesomerwb1 Nov 2019 #13
Thank you and please continue to remind all of us about Kelly lunatica Nov 2019 #24
Haley is positioning herself to be VP when Trump dumps Pence. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #15
Nah, she wants the whole saidsimplesimon Nov 2019 #17
You're more than right Nasruddin Nov 2019 #40
Yup; linking to my earlier post about this Alithea Nov 2019 #50
Bobby Jindal's Clone? saidsimplesimon Nov 2019 #16
And she DID NOTHING Docreed2003 Nov 2019 #18
Yes BigOleDummy Nov 2019 #22
Ya' THINK? maddiemom Nov 2019 #38
and nobody did jack shit. barbtries Nov 2019 #19
Also, that another (ostensibly respectable) official (Haley) has flipped to Camp Trump. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #20
As the OP said BigOleDummy Nov 2019 #23
Highly suspicious of Haley. louseb Nov 2019 #25
The truly frightening thing, for me, is that she's started making maneuvers. calimary Nov 2019 #26
+1 H2O Man Nov 2019 #34
I'd now put good money on Tillerson or Kelly being "Anonymous" cab67 Nov 2019 #27
Nikki Haley is setting herself up to be the next champion for avarice, unification of church and KPN Nov 2019 #28
She proved its all about her duforsure Nov 2019 #30
So when are Tillerson and Kelly going to go public with their concerns? Poiuyt Nov 2019 #32
I was wondering the same thing NastyRiffraff Nov 2019 #47
Also, How Political Considerations DallasNE Nov 2019 #33
No White Hats in tRump world. Pox on them all. IADEMO2004 Nov 2019 #35
Republicans have been actively covering up for Trump since the day he took office dlk Nov 2019 #36
THIS x 1,000,000,000 Martin Eden Nov 2019 #39
Right is wrong and wrong is right in Repugniland. She's so f'd up she wants a big pat on the back Cousin Dupree Nov 2019 #42
I'm thinking we shouldn't believe anything she says until it's Hortensis Nov 2019 #46
What bothers me most about Haley's statements is that she is critical of those who prevented Trump Nitram Nov 2019 #48
Here's what's even scarier: A headline that reads... MrModerate Nov 2019 #49
I don't see how any of them could have been surprised ThoughtCriminal Nov 2019 #55
Interesting - that's what the upper levels of the German government said about Adolf. dhol82 Nov 2019 #57
"...actively recruiting..." - and Nikki said no. dchill Nov 2019 #56
It's what we hoped would happen, that some people on the inside would try to be a kind of backstop. NCLefty Nov 2019 #58
And this... US4u2 Nov 2019 #59
I do not believe Haley! True Blue American Nov 2019 #61
Nikki Haley was really warning Americans blakstoneranger Nov 2019 #62
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