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crazytown

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Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:46 AM Oct 2019

US military will no longer use 8" floppy disks to coordinate nuke launches [View all]

WTF.

US military will no longer use floppy disks to coordinate nuke launches
It now has a "highly-secure solid state digital storage solution."

As we alarmingly learned in 2014, the US military has been using 8-inch floppy disks in an antiquated '70s computer to receive nuclear launch orders from the President. Now, the US strategic command has announced that it has replaced the drives with a "highly-secure solid state digital storage solution," Lt. Col. Jason Rossi told c4isrnet.com.

The storage is used in an ancient system called the Strategic Automated Command and Control System, or SACCS. It's used by US nuclear forces to send emergency action messages from command centers to field forces, and is unhackable precisely because it was created long before the internet existed. "You can't hack something that doesn't have an IP address. It's a very unique system -- it is old and it is very good," Rossi said.

The Defense Department planned to replace the old IBM Series/1 SACCS computer and "update its data storage solutions, port expansion processors, portable terminals, and desktop terminals by the end of fiscal year 2017," it said in 2016. The Air Force hasn't revealed whether that project is complete, but did say that it has enhanced the speed and connectivity of SACCS.

Despite the age of the system, the Air Force is confident in its security and has a pretty good handle on maintaining it. By contrast, installing an all-new system isn't as easy as it sounds. "You have to be able to certify that an adversary can't take control of that weapon, that the weapon will be able to do what it's supposed to do when you call on it," said Air Force Scientific Advisory Board chair Dr. Werner JA Dahm back in 2016.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/18/us-military-nuclear-missiles-floppy-disks/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWFjc3VyZmVyLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANyWfvG927T2hO_RMfpEd8wsuGkBhOe_RsutsDXOewiQnLZPFK7mK1WKd-kOPenkREzbCjM1Yi8PuLqgsoGCcc3huGJET7AqQnqQVIlnAzIyXN0Zx7cIRS4jGoiqu6MP7Wu0BLXh4ex8dZS5xag3HTg_78GV1W69BKwIaa84Fq4S
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I had no idea underpants Oct 2019 #1
Lol, amazing! Nt USALiberal Oct 2019 #2
I heard they upgraded to that all new Windows 95 Downtown Hound Oct 2019 #3
Amazing! They leapfrogged the stone knives and bearskins! lastlib Oct 2019 #37
OMG....were doomed Historic NY Oct 2019 #4
+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #5
Old system is reliable and unhackable - harumph Oct 2019 #6
+1. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #8
Yup. The age of the system wound up giving it extra security. JHB Oct 2019 #13
And now I'm supposed to sleep at night? lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #7
are those connected to the woper? Locrian Oct 2019 #9
Only for the solitaire games Brother Buzz Oct 2019 #10
YES! Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #36
oh god, gives me bad flashbacks of how unreliable floppy disks were with bad sectors ansible Oct 2019 #11
Hey, you can't hack an 8" floppy jeffreyi Oct 2019 #12
Bad sectors? crazytown Oct 2019 #14
Ok, clever and tricky, but not the most stable. jeffreyi Oct 2019 #15
I'm thinking Zip drives crazytown Oct 2019 #17
(Slightly chagrined) jeffreyi Oct 2019 #29
I am refurbishing an old computer of mine that still has a 3 1/2 floppy drive TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #28
I definitely have 5.25s around. Ms. Toad Oct 2019 #33
No USB ports, no internet connections, fewer security risks. hunter Oct 2019 #16
Calling Major Kong, Major Kong? crazytown Oct 2019 #18
Off topic, but our desk shares space with our current laptop AND an old Gateway desktop yonder Oct 2019 #19
Last software I used on five inch floppies was AutoCAD 2.0 I believe pecosbob Oct 2019 #20
Finally upgrading from their Commodore 64s. TeamPooka Oct 2019 #21
We can't lose the arms race, this is catch up with braddy Oct 2019 #22
Once we get Skynet up and running, all our worries will be over. Caliman73 Oct 2019 #23
Get Smart! imanamerican63 Oct 2019 #24
I'm sure Huawei has some good upgrade system solutions... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #25
Is this for real? smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #26
Don't forget to install Kaspersky AV! (nt) klook Oct 2019 #27
The last time I saw 8" floppy drives was 15 years ago, and that was at electronic surprlus stores still_one Oct 2019 #30
Actualy with the floppy disks were probably more secure. Fla Dem Oct 2019 #31
Ahem fescuerescue Oct 2019 #35
Trump probably told them to use 16" disks. LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #32
but will they upgrade to the TI 99/4A computer? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #34
I have one in my garage I can sell them for cheap. lpbk2713 Oct 2019 #38
mine collects dust, too ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #39
Hey thanks. lpbk2713 Oct 2019 #40
welcome. has worked for me for years Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #42
Interesting. I had very much the same experience, but it was 25 years ago. cos dem Oct 2019 #41
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