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kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:42 PM Sep 2019

A weekend with Conservative parents [View all]

So I visited them for about 4 days and learned a lot. Overall it was a wonderful time, some real quality time talking about the old days and enjoying time with them, but of course I could not avoid it morphing into a Trump rally now and then. I figured I'd share some of their excellent, well thought out arguments. I am sure after seeing these most will log off of DU and become Republican. Mind you there was plenty more and much of this is paraphrased, but this stuff really stands out. It really makes me sad honestly.

Step-Father: "I love AOC she's so hilarious because everything she says is so stupid it just makes me laugh"
Me: "Hmmm. I don't know much about her, but what has she said that was so stupid?"
S-F: Everything

Step-Father talking about multicultural barbies: It was just idle bitching and moaning that barbie would make barbies of different ethnicity
Me: Well it's certainly not one of my main issues, but not sure I see a problem telling women of different colors, races, religions, etc. that they too are beautiful. I know you see this as the "Liberalization" of America, but I just can't see why this is bad
Step-Father: Not everyone can be blonde
Me: That's kinda my point. Who declared blonde as prettier?
Step-Father: The fact men are attracted to blondes

Step-Father: The Electoral College is a great thing, it makes sure the tyranny of the majority does not take place
Me: Yea kinda funny it came out of catering to the slaves states
Step-Father: What are you talking about
Me: Ever hear of the 3/5 compromise?

Step-Father: Rabid lecture on health care, ending with "they will take away your insurance"
Me: Fucking good. What I and dare I say most Americans really want is health care.


Mother: "I don't like the way he can be an asshole, but Trump has done more for this country than any President"
Me: "Like What"
Mother: "What did Obama do?"

Mother: "What do you think of Warren?"
Me: "Well she's not Trump for one and I really love the fact she's talking about corruption and the influence of money in politics"
Mother: "She doesn't have the experience"
Me: So what kind of experience did Trump have
Mother: "I don't want to talk about it:

Mother: "Democrats are just spend thrifts"
Me: Actually mom the federal deficit went down under Obama and has increased under Trump
Mother: I do not believe that. Where are you getting your facts?
Me: cranking to non partisan website to show her the facts
Mother: I don't want to talk about it

Mother: It's all racists here in Virginia, black racists and they want to take down the Civil War monuments
Me: Well for starters mom I could give a shit about statues, but where are these statues located
Mother: Richmond
Me: You don't live there why do you care? Perhaps the people of Richmond would like them moved
Mother: It's getting rid of history
Me: No it's not, it's getting rid of statues
Mother: There are a lot of people who oppose it
Me: You mean Conservatives in the outlying counties surrounding Richmond
Mother: yes
Me: So you guys in the country want to tell people in the big city how to live?
Mother: Lets drop it
Me: Why don't you counties ban together, raise some taxes and buy the monuments, and stick them in a museum? I am sure Richmond will give you a good deal.
Mother: Just drop it

At dinner, we had a black waitress
Mother: Where is our bread I bet if we were the right color we'd get served
Me: Looking around. Mom I think they are understaffed every time I see her she's working really hard

Other notables:

I am not racist at all, at church every time I see Person A (who is black) I give her a hug.

Talking about how she's a good teacher at bible study, my mom says, "the kids really love me I even had a black boy sit up in my lap". My response was, "why are you telling me he was black?"

In a rare moment of clarity mom mentions the segregation of the south, remembering how black people could not sit with white people, she genuinely did not like this, but then fucks it all up by saying, "but today, the blacks blame everything on racism"
Me: Is it possible blacks have been discriminated against even today?
Mom: Yes, but it's rare, it's like always yelling police brutality.
Me: You do realize unarmed black men have been murdered by cops don't you?
Mom: That's ridiculous, these people are criminals
Me: How do you know they were criminals? Even if they were criminals do you support shooting unarmed victims who have their hands up?
Mom: Oh come on
Me: Mom, it's on VIDEO, or do you propose now that I am exposing your nonsense for us to drop it?
Mom: Yes lets drop it.
Me: So you do not wish to see the videos of unarmed black men being gunned down?
Mom: No I don't want to see
Me: Then can you please never ever state anything about police attacks on black people until you're at least willing to see the other side
Mom: I am able to see all sides
Me: Then please explain to be ONE SINGLE Liberal perspective, your choice. You may not agree with it, but just explain to me what Liberals want to accomplish with any issue of your choice.
TOTAL Silence, She never could come up with any

My parents are pretty much gone. I hope to survive Christmas and have asked my wife to avoid politics at all costs.

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Thanks for sharing Pluvious Sep 2019 #1
Thanks friend kwolf68 Sep 2019 #4
Nonstop 24/7/365 hate radio since the mid-80s helped nail that down. calimary Sep 2019 #44
Yes Ahpook Sep 2019 #59
"...don't even engage on any level approaching rational discourse.' pangaia Sep 2019 #69
Fascinating. Great article..thanks for posting. mountain grammy Sep 2019 #36
Ah, it resonates. You kept at it though; you're stronger than me. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #2
Yep you got it. kwolf68 Sep 2019 #6
All of his children are Liberals, and every Grandchild is a fire-breathing Environmentalist. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #16
"believe in".. this is the disease.... pangaia Sep 2019 #71
They sound like Foxaholics. n/t customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #3
OMG - my sole surviving non-spouse relative is a lefty. I'm sooooooo lucky. Vinca Sep 2019 #5
My wife is also lefty... kwolf68 Sep 2019 #8
Even though they have some fucked up thinking...I'll bet they are still...... UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #7
Haha great comment kwolf68 Sep 2019 #9
They sound like very decent people to me....as virgogal Sep 2019 #11
Us vs. Them tribalism Boomer Sep 2019 #24
Brilliant synopsis. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #50
Tribalisim, extended by (anti)science. Mopar151 Sep 2019 #73
Wow! Thanks for your excellent post. Ohiogal Sep 2019 #10
Opinion is equal to facts. lunatica Sep 2019 #12
Many of us can relate... Moral Compass Sep 2019 #13
Yea kwolf68 Sep 2019 #15
Sounds like you did a good job gratuitous Sep 2019 #14
Exactly kwolf68 Sep 2019 #17
Accentuate the positive MikeIsInProcess Sep 2019 #34
It sounds like you are able to keep your sense of humor. Jim__ Sep 2019 #18
Bless you for loving them anyway. lostnfound Sep 2019 #19
... struggle4progress Sep 2019 #20
Thanks for putting up with it, elleng Sep 2019 #21
Sadly familiar conversation. madamesilverspurs Sep 2019 #22
OMG I feel so sorry for you and your family. Oppaloopa Sep 2019 #23
I was with my brother in law at righty nut. No facts they just say "fake news". You can't argue with Pepsidog Sep 2019 #25
I have smiled at Trumpers and say: Baked Potato Sep 2019 #26
it's becase it calls their very identity into question... Locrian Sep 2019 #27
Thanks for sharing. Helps us to have perspective. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #28
You did well with an impossible task. yonder Sep 2019 #29
The whole thing in a nutshell: volstork Sep 2019 #30
I would say fuck Christmas gopiscrap Sep 2019 #31
thank you barbtries Sep 2019 #32
I was wondering if you were my SIL or BIL until Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #33
Wow - this could be me and my mom onlyadream Sep 2019 #35
That sounds like a... 3catwoman3 Sep 2019 #37
Tyranny of the minority is OK with Republicans blm Sep 2019 #38
Good for you..... Katinfl Sep 2019 #39
Too much Fox News rots your brain and poisons your mind. Initech Sep 2019 #40
This sounds like my life! mtngirl47 Sep 2019 #41
"appointed president" - True! Desert_Leslie Sep 2019 #43
Oh, yeah. Been there. Desert_Leslie Sep 2019 #42
When is the Nobel peace prize given? Karadeniz Sep 2019 #45
Your step father is a lost cause, but I can DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #46
Interesting take kwolf68 Sep 2019 #51
During a stint as a DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #68
My 96 year old mother went along with my Republican father LuckyLib Sep 2019 #47
Good luck at Christmas. This is happening all over the country. My family is gone to me. Fox News. Evolve Dammit Sep 2019 #48
Lovely. All else you need is a cigar-chomping uncle who starts every conversation about African Blue_true Sep 2019 #49
Reminds me of that idiot kwolf68 Sep 2019 #52
Yep. Unfortunately, people like him exists among us. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #56
I am so grateful for my parents nini Sep 2019 #53
Sounds like my parents TheFarseer Sep 2019 #54
Sounds about white nt live love laugh Sep 2019 #55
Relationships are the most important things we have in in life... VarryOn Sep 2019 #57
Yes kwolf68 Sep 2019 #58
I have a dear friend with whom I dont agree with on politics.... VarryOn Sep 2019 #60
That's interesting. LittleGirl Sep 2019 #61
It's so irrational: they marginalize everyone who is not like them King_Klonopin Sep 2019 #62
But it does sound like your Mom found the perfect guy for her. ooky Sep 2019 #63
So... Archie Bunker, then. I had my mother repeat a Fox News conspiracy theory about Barrack Obama NCLefty Sep 2019 #64
:) Kwolfe's family has been tried and has not fallen. Hortensis Sep 2019 #65
Absolutely hilarious :) kaotikross Sep 2019 #66
Are we related? study war no more Sep 2019 #67
yep llashram Sep 2019 #70
So, I assume Faux Snooze is the current event Bible in their house? TruckFump Sep 2019 #72
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