Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)2. EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS ARTICLE ...
Sad that I have to rely on the National Review author to talk some sense into people, but this article is DEAD ON RIGHT.
A credible estimate is that e-cigarettes, which involve inhaling a nicotine-infused vapor rather than smoke, are about 95 percent less harmful than cigarettes.
The vaping-related illnesses that have recently garnered headlines and prompted the regulatory actions appear not to implicate standard vaping despite loose statements to the contrary by politicians and in the press. Early evidence suggests the use of black-market liquids containing THC, the active ingredient in cannabis. Its possible that an acetate, added to thicken the THC oil, may be the cause. The New York Department of Health found very high levels of vitamin E acetate in nearly all cannabis-containing samples analyzed.
The problem with the flavor bans and especially a San Francisco-style outright ban is its effect on adult e-cigarette users.
About 11 million adults vape, and some percentage of them are former smokers or would be smoking in the absence of e-cigarettes. A robust study in the United Kingdom found that vaping is twice as effective as other common nicotine replacements in getting smokers to quit. The flavors, according to surveys of users, are a big draw for smokers quitting traditional cigarettes.
The U.K. has adopted a much more sensible approach that welcomes e-cigarettes as an important harm-reduction measure. According to a report in The Guardian, a couple of National Health Service hospitals have even allowed vape shops to open on their premises.
That would cause a hue and cry in the United States, where we cant agree on anything except, apparently, our irrational hostility to a product that is an alternative to a terrible public health scourge.
The vaping-related illnesses that have recently garnered headlines and prompted the regulatory actions appear not to implicate standard vaping despite loose statements to the contrary by politicians and in the press. Early evidence suggests the use of black-market liquids containing THC, the active ingredient in cannabis. Its possible that an acetate, added to thicken the THC oil, may be the cause. The New York Department of Health found very high levels of vitamin E acetate in nearly all cannabis-containing samples analyzed.
The problem with the flavor bans and especially a San Francisco-style outright ban is its effect on adult e-cigarette users.
About 11 million adults vape, and some percentage of them are former smokers or would be smoking in the absence of e-cigarettes. A robust study in the United Kingdom found that vaping is twice as effective as other common nicotine replacements in getting smokers to quit. The flavors, according to surveys of users, are a big draw for smokers quitting traditional cigarettes.
The U.K. has adopted a much more sensible approach that welcomes e-cigarettes as an important harm-reduction measure. According to a report in The Guardian, a couple of National Health Service hospitals have even allowed vape shops to open on their premises.
That would cause a hue and cry in the United States, where we cant agree on anything except, apparently, our irrational hostility to a product that is an alternative to a terrible public health scourge.
TopBack to the top of the page
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
ShareGet links to this post
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
Cannot edit, recommend, or reply in locked discussions
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
122 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
The damn pot prohibition in the US is lame and stupid, and was a Nixon ploy. Fuck, people are stupid
RKP5637
Sep 2019
#12
The kind that the vast majority of people use? There's very little mystery there my friend ...
mr_lebowski
Sep 2019
#7
Yes, but those with nicotine that are marketed to teens are disturbing, aren't they?
Clash City Rocker
Sep 2019
#27
Nicotine is addictive, but the claims some people like to make about how it's 'more so than heroin'
mr_lebowski
Sep 2019
#64
As usual, the US goes into a panic mode and does something irrational and stupid before all the
RKP5637
Sep 2019
#14
"Or the substances mixed with water used to transfer nicotine molecules to the alveoli. "
mr_lebowski
Sep 2019
#75
A problem with ZERO positive association with traditional nicotine vaping products of any kind ...
mr_lebowski
Sep 2019
#80
What's funny is in AZ I already buy unflavored e-juice, been doing so for years ...
mr_lebowski
Sep 2019
#58
I have never smoked or vaped, but can relate my wife's experience as a decades long smoker.
LexVegas
Sep 2019
#6
Yep, exactly my thought!!! Big Tobacco money behind this ... and money to our ever so honest
RKP5637
Sep 2019
#15
Behind the flavored e-juice bans you mean? Oh yeah, you're definitely onto something there.
mr_lebowski
Sep 2019
#61
"Trump wants it" is truly outstanding evidence that an idea is a really bad one nt
coti
Sep 2019
#63
I think there are certain risks on inhaling any sort of foriegn substance through the lungs.
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2019
#11
The demonization of a brilliant invention that is going to save MILLIONS of lives into the future
coti
Sep 2019
#29
what pisses me off is seeing the exact same bullcrap we saw a half century ago with tobacco denial
unblock
Sep 2019
#31
Much as jumping off a 3-story building is safer than jumping off a 30-story building
unblock
Sep 2019
#66
Also, much as jumping off a three inch curb is safer than jumping off a 30-story building
LanternWaste
Sep 2019
#108
pushing the notion that vaping is as safe as jumping off a 3-inch curb is wrong and dangerous
unblock
Sep 2019
#110
So is the analogy that it's like jumping off a three-story building. You're stoking
coti
Sep 2019
#114
This story reminds me of hearing about a nationwide recall on beef or chicken...
Callmecrazy
Sep 2019
#59
Sounds like the beginning of a great abstinence-only program to market to teenagers nt
coti
Sep 2019
#49
So wait, does it make logical sense that "tabacco" and "menthol" flavored ecigs are good?
Liberal Veteran
Sep 2019
#84
"compared with traditional cigarettes it's a refreshing kale and spinach smoothie"
NCLefty
Sep 2019
#96
It's been a few weeks since we've had ourselves a good ol fashioned MORAL PANIC.
Act_of_Reparation
Sep 2019
#98
Kill folks the old fashioned Murican way, none of this newfangled digital crap
Thomas Hurt
Sep 2019
#101