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wasupaloopa

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8. Do you think you will pay less in taxes because you will pay a lower rate than someone wealthier?

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 03:54 PM

Sep 2019

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Thus your share in supporting single payer will be less than someone else no matter how much you use the system?

And a young person who does not need healthcare who has a decent income pays but gets nothing in return?

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I'm all for paying higher taxes for a Medicare for all system. [View all] Yavin4 Sep 2019 OP

The studies are showing that any tax increase would be more than offset by not having to Poiuyt Sep 2019 #1

Give me a link to those studies wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #5

the links are the rest of the advanced world, regardless of whatever system they use to get there Celerity Sep 2019 #43

I thought so. You can't defend what you are talking about. What rest of the world healthcare wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #56

I grew up in London (NHS) & have lived in the Nordics as well, so I'm well versed in other nations Celerity Sep 2019 #68

I will read your post later and take notes and reply later.. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #71

I am one of the few who says there is almost no chance even the Public Option will pass, let alone Celerity Sep 2019 #72

I agree that in the long run that there might be cost savings under a single-payer plan. TexasTowelie Sep 2019 #75

There will never be a single payer system for healthcare in the US for decades, maybe not in my Celerity Sep 2019 #76

Yes, I'm worried about Medicaid and Medicare spilling the beans TexasTowelie Sep 2019 #77

So you do not support a public option? As it would obviously Celerity Sep 2019 #78

I never said that I don't support a public option so don't extrapolate and put words in my mouth. TexasTowelie Sep 2019 #83

How is asking you a question putting words into your mouth? Celerity Sep 2019 #84

Your actual question was, "So you do not support a public option?" TexasTowelie Sep 2019 #85

That is pettifogging. My phraseology just flowed naturally from the colloquy. Celerity Sep 2019 #86

Let's see. TexasTowelie Sep 2019 #87

Physicians for a National Health Program has a lot of good information Poiuyt Sep 2019 #57

National Nurses United, Our Revolution, Democratic Socialists of America, Progressive Democrats of wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #62

There will be no such thing. You will still make a monthly payment. We will never wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #2

This is not government run Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #6

No they do not want government funded healthcare wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #9

55% favor Medicare for all Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #13

LOL. Ok, whatever you say. PSPS Sep 2019 #22

Who decides Medicare reimbursement rates? Who decides what the annual deductible is? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #15

Bernie's plan has no deductible. roody Sep 2019 #35

Bernie has no plan. He makes shit up. You and I can do just the same. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #59

+1000 nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #70

Good post Gothmog Sep 2019 #73

Excellent post. I agree completely. nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #74

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #79

If you can read, you can read it. roody Sep 2019 #80

Read that Bernie will raise taxes,everyone will have the best healthare insurance companies disapear wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #82

You can read the bill. roody Sep 2019 #90

There is no bill. It is a Bernie made up thing that I just described. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #91

Ok, you win. Go to Congress.gov. roody Sep 2019 #92

How many bills has Bernie introduced in his career? How many became law? A couple of post office wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #95

Not reading it? roody Sep 2019 #97

it always helps to give a link Celerity Sep 2019 #98

The poster didn't say pay nothing lunatica Sep 2019 #7

Than what difference does it make if you pay taxes or premiums? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #10

About the same difference it makes to pay for a multi billion dollar military lunatica Sep 2019 #12

Here's the difference. Yavin4 Sep 2019 #18

You're not paying the billions in CEO salaries for their yachts, jets and bimbos. PSPS Sep 2019 #24

Most people can afford to pay their taxes. Mariana Sep 2019 #27

"Skin in the game"... Bettie Sep 2019 #16

My post clearly states that I am for paying higher taxes. Yavin4 Sep 2019 #17

Government-run health care is not government-run insurance. roody Sep 2019 #34

".where you pay nothing for healthcare." Who says you may nothing? pangaia Sep 2019 #45

lololol, tell Canada and the UK, etc that they are 'socialist'. RW talking point much? Celerity Sep 2019 #46

Medicare currently has at least two of those things exboyfil Sep 2019 #3

Actually, your survivors can be billed for Medicaid expenses you incurred stopbush Sep 2019 #30

Only to the extent of your estate exboyfil Sep 2019 #53

M4All as written by Sanders has no copays, premiums, or deductibles. roody Sep 2019 #36

Medicare For All is not Medicare. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #44

I'm with you on getting the importance of taxes! lunatica Sep 2019 #4

Do you think you will pay less in taxes because you will pay a lower rate than someone wealthier? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #8

Again, you would pay more in payroll taxes and additional sales taxes on non-essential Yavin4 Sep 2019 #19

You don't know that. That is part of the fairy land made up stuff. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #50

The young person Disaffected Sep 2019 #20

The concepts are hard to grasp for two reasons. LonePirate Sep 2019 #33

"I don't understand why these single payer concepts are seemingly so hard to grasp." Because you wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #54

Seriously?? Disaffected Sep 2019 #58

"and a young person who does not need healthcare who has a decent income pays pangaia Sep 2019 #48

I thought we were talking about taxes now it's insurance! wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #55

you pay a tax, which covers "insurance,'if you will, for when you have medical bills. pangaia Sep 2019 #60

Pool our money together, it goes a lot further ... aggiesal Sep 2019 #11

Yes, Disaffected Sep 2019 #21

If people want their Cadillac plans, they should be allow to have it ... aggiesal Sep 2019 #25

I would not be too adverse to that. Disaffected Sep 2019 #28

And Medicare should still be part of their payroll tax ... aggiesal Sep 2019 #32

Me too, and with 'insurance' companies out of the picture we have plenty of money to pay for it. GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #14

I had some gaslighter try and tell me that there were no major profits being made in the US Celerity Sep 2019 #47

Yep, the Democratic candidate should run on a platform of higher income taxes--a sure winner. elocs Sep 2019 #23

Why would it be paying higher income taxes? ... aggiesal Sep 2019 #38

It's also not going to happen but it makes for a great promise elocs Sep 2019 #49

That's more RW garbage that conveniently leaves out the reductions in outlays for premiums. LonePirate Sep 2019 #42

It's true though. Try running on "we'll increase your taxes" and see what happens. elocs Sep 2019 #51

It's misinformation because it leaves out half of the equation. LonePirate Sep 2019 #52

Trying to explain away "we'll raise your taxes" is a loser, but you can't accept that. elocs Sep 2019 #63

All Warren and Sanders need to do is tell folks how much it will Hoyt Sep 2019 #26

All good ideas Disaffected Sep 2019 #29

👍🏼 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #37

It has to be made really simple for people. Vinca Sep 2019 #31

A lot of Americans don't shell out a thousand a month for HCI, employer based HCI is taken uponit7771 Sep 2019 #39

If employers don't have to shell out millions for health insurance coverage, chances are their Vinca Sep 2019 #67

Me too, it's puzzling to me. ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #89

Bingo! c-rational Sep 2019 #40

As long as taxes go for something worthy, I'm all for them. forgotmylogin Sep 2019 #41

We should go back to the tax brackets we had back in the late 1970's. LiberalFighter Sep 2019 #61

I'd even take the tax rates from 1982. roamer65 Sep 2019 #66

This entire argument leaves out on glaring fact. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #64

A single payor system will even cut the cost of auto insurance. roamer65 Sep 2019 #65

I think many of us would be willing to pay higher taxes for universal health care but.... George II Sep 2019 #69

I agree, although it's important to realize that different people ecstatic Sep 2019 #81

I can't afford higher taxes. The rich need to be taxed and give the working... Joe941 Sep 2019 #88

What would be more: Polybius Sep 2019 #94

With Obamacare, bare minimum insurance would be $320 a month for me Polybius Sep 2019 #93

I've read all the 80+ posts above. Lucid Dreamer Sep 2019 #96

Medicare has monthly premiums, deductibles and co-pays. former9thward Sep 2019 #99

The people here aren't the people you need to convince... brooklynite Sep 2019 #100

we don't need higher taxes, the waste and excessive profits in the healthcare industry can easily beachbumbob Sep 2019 #101