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In reply to the discussion: Pelosi: "A vote against this bill is a vote for Donald Trump and his inhumane, outside-the-circle of [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)92. You are confusing the shelters with the border patrol cells.
These kids that have no toothbrushes or soap are in the cells waiting to get to shelters, which are full.
Is that clearer?
But currently the NGOs don't answer to congress. This bill would require it, including giving congress access to inspect shelters at any time with no notice. The shelter must abide by standards set in the bill, or their contract is cancelled.
It includes no funding for DOD or the wall.
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Pelosi: "A vote against this bill is a vote for Donald Trump and his inhumane, outside-the-circle of [View all]
ehrnst
Jun 2019
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I hope that ALL of our Democrats rally behind Speaker Pelosi and votes for this.
George II
Jun 2019
#2
Those kids need help now. Holding up aid to them in order to defy Trump in every way is no better
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#3
They need simple things like soap, toothpaste, blankets, decent sleeping conditions, ALL of which...
George II
Jun 2019
#5
Which is why NGOs need to be in there instead, which is what this bill funds. (nt)
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#6
See post #7 in this thread... claiming that anything but obstruction will "normalize" the situation.
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#10
I don't know, I think they need more cover ... NOT voting for impeachment but voting for Red Don's
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#13
Congress will not personally hand out the money to the NGOs, please stop saying that
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#96
Yes, and there is a word for it. Complicity. Those who appease those who act like nazis enable them.
Amyishere
Jun 2019
#126
So what happens to the kids at the border while we "build the wall of obstruction" and impeach?
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#9
I think it's a bit naive to think additional funding will result in better treatment
LanternWaste
Jun 2019
#11
AMEN!! and no one outside of Red Don's sycophants believe the funds will be used properly
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#12
You know, actually reading something before ranting about the contents makes one look far more
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#16
Sigh, I have ... NO ... confidence the NGOs will see any money from Red Don's admin. Why do you? tia
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#18
Not for government contracts. Is reading the article at the OP that difficult? (nt)
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#46
It's a bit naive to think that better treatment will come by continuing as things have been
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#14
We agree, then sign short fund that is contingent on Red Don ending the child abuse ... better?
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#27
Nope, give them funding for 3 months then at the end of 3 months Red Don shows how he has
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#86
No metering and 3 day processing of asylum seekers. Rep Paul Ruiz agrees with my position to some
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#97
If red don was made to own his child abuse then yes, it is realistic. Looks like the house ...
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#100
"The alternative is leaving kids in the situation that they are in. " This is false on its face
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#119
" You have offered no other alternative..." This is also false. Make Red Don stop metering and send
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#122
So... how does one "make Red Don stop" and "send resources for faster more thorough processing?"
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#124
the problem is not a lack of money, and won't be solved by giving more money
Amyishere
Jun 2019
#127
Some here think that it's worth it, if complete obstruction will "teach Trump a lesson."
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#17
Giving Trump more money for child abuse isn't going to stop child deaths at his concentration camps
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#32
I don't trust one bit that the money will end up with NGOs, there's no reason to.
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#36
That chance is 100% great with the Trump admin, we can fund the NGO's directly and no go
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#42
Hearing GOP talking points about the social safety net in very surprising places today...
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#44
Not for government contracts. Please give reading the actual article in the OP a try.
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#48
What NGO would stay quiet about not getting the money that the contract states?
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#105
The same ones being quiet about the conditions in the other facilities? The same ones who are
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#106
Goalposts moved... so you can still rant that Democrats are "colluding with Red Don"
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#114
... and some have a rational reason to not trust a damn thing Trump the Child Abuser says
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#20
So Pelosi is handing out the money to the NGOs personally or is this a bill to fund the NGO's throug
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#30
Yes, of course he and Melanie are at the border handing out stacks like paper towels :rolleyes:
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#49
You posted "government" run by trump, I don't trust them ... that's not hard. The bill could be ...
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#58
You mean when Trump folk asked to come before congress tell them to pound sand? That "oversight"?
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#61
More useless condescension without comprehension of the other person position. That's boring
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#65
we are fixing tRumps problems and this unimpeachable president will come out smelling like roses nt
yaesu
Jun 2019
#73
So let the kids get sick, traumatized and possibly die so we can make him "look worse?"
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#78
So, you're saying don't authorize funding to help these kids - that it's "inhumane?"
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#76
So you think that providing a safe place for the kids in cages to go costs nothing?
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#107
Maybe, but it is for sure that believing Trump will use the money for any good is just not...
JoeOtterbein
Jun 2019
#85
What good with impeachment do? It won't take him out of office, and it won't get those kids out
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#108
Again... how does impeachment help these kids, especially if it doesn't take him out of office?
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#117
Sadly back in January (or was it February) some DEMOCRATS voted to keep the government....
George II
Jun 2019
#83
Actually, the bill makes them much more accountable to congress and less to HHS.
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#90