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rlegro

(338 posts)
22. I think it's likely
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jun 2019

...that this drone was operating like today's version of the U-2, a high-altitude, supposedly invulnerable craft that was mostly in international waters but performing a series of parries and thrusts into Iranian airspace to test that country's defenses. Which testing is what our military conduct in earnest when they are preparing for a possible war. The Russians do the same thing -- except we don't shoot them down when they crowd our territory or buzz or ships and planes. With respect to the U-2 comparison, note that when that spycraft regularly traversed USSR airspace, the Russians tried over and over to shoot down those planes. And succeeded in downing the one piloted by Francis Gary Powers. So a big difference is that while back in the '60s an isolated attack on our aircraft didn't provoke a military strike in return, today the destruction of an unmanned drone has the White House ready to do just that. Finally, I suppose that in becoming more tendentious in the gulf and along Iranian airspace, the Trump maladministration is actively trying to provoke conflict. Just as the US did in the Gulf of Tonkin and elsewhere decades ago.

But, somebody said something! orangecrush Jun 2019 #1
I was just saying this very thing. onlyadream Jun 2019 #2
Have we seen photos of a drone that was shot down? lunatica Jun 2019 #12
Iran is not challenging that there was a drone shot down. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #17
I think it's likely rlegro Jun 2019 #22
Will a picture drawn with crayons by donnie do? Alwaysna Jun 2019 #31
Perhaps Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #3
I guarantee if an Iranian drone got within a couple hundred miles of our country, we'd shoot Hoyt Jun 2019 #4
Flying drones over / near Iran is kacekwl Jun 2019 #7
Yes, it was a ploy customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #30
"International territory" within the Straights of Hormuz is extremely narrow. anyplace in there is Nitram Jun 2019 #36
Not my point. kacekwl Jun 2019 #37
It should be. Look at a map. Nitram Jun 2019 #38
"International territory" in this case just means "outside of Iranian airspace" FBaggins Jun 2019 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author kacekwl Jun 2019 #8
Time we stop bullying the world, often only for political show. malaise Jun 2019 #9
This must be repeated: raccoon Jun 2019 #15
I don't believe a thing from the Trump Administration. The noose is tightening, BEWARE!! walkingman Jun 2019 #5
Without transparency, how can they be trusted? Brainfodder Jun 2019 #23
Corporate media will go into their "Wartime Commander in Chief" mode sop Jun 2019 #6
Sadly they will exploit the reverence for the presidency to the hilt. BSdetect Jun 2019 #10
Maybe the media won't be so giddy if Iran's Cyber Army Ilsa Jun 2019 #11
Iran is quite formidable in the cyberwarfare context rlegro Jun 2019 #21
Nitro Zeus Ilsa Jun 2019 #25
Doesn't Russia have a pact with Iran? trev Jun 2019 #27
Iran could too, and the US Ilsa Jun 2019 #28
I keep saying it was a tanker from Japan with a flag Grey Jun 2019 #13
Why aren't congresspersons talking about congressional authorization? nt wiggs Jun 2019 #14
"Democratic party *ALLOWS* MF45 (sic) and Moscow Mitch (sic)...disregarding law as they see fit" Baltimike Jun 2019 #16
This is America's Worst Moment! McKim Jun 2019 #18
correction Pluvious Jun 2019 #19
? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #24
This Cetacea Jun 2019 #34
Not accurate. nt Codeine Jun 2019 #26
Well said. However... rlegro Jun 2019 #20
Please provide examples of "giddy". brooklynite Jun 2019 #29
"The war will begin, everyone will forget Mueller and whatever else.." And Trump is counting on it! YOHABLO Jun 2019 #32
The mainstream media is anxious and worried - not giddy. I don't know what qualifies as media to Nitram Jun 2019 #33
K&R Cetacea Jun 2019 #35
I think you're right on... WiffenPoof Jun 2019 #39
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