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In reply to the discussion: New Voting Machines On Display For Voter Comments In Allegheny County (PGH PA) [View all]diva77
(7,643 posts)13. These are VERY BAD if they are BMDs -- Ballot Marking Devices; they are 100% UNVERIFIABLE & HACKABLE
The vendors try to make you believe that they're good cuz there's paper involved. NOT TRUE!!! The ballot is NOT handmarked, and there is no way to know the voter's intent and whether the vote will be counted as cast. Here is a picture of what the bar code producing BMDs spit out:
analysis of the problems here:
https://bradblog.com/?p=12910
'Facts and Voters Be Damned': New, Hackable, Unverifiable Voting Systems Coming for 2020: 'BradCast' 3/4/2019
The fight to block brand new, unverifiable (and, of course, hackable) voting systems continues as election officials in a number of jurisdictions (including some key Democratic-leaning ones) are rushing to implement them despite unambiguous warnings from experts and as the national media (after years of our own warnings) have finally begun to take notice.
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Politico's Eric Geller ran a feature article summarizing some of the many warnings (see here https://bradblog.com/Docs/ExpertsLettertoSAFECommission_GA_BMDs_010719.pdf and here https://bradblog.com/Docs/OSETInstitute_HB316-BMDsNotVerifiable_021919.pdf for example) from cybersecurity and voting systems experts inveighing against new, touchscreen computer Ballot Marking Devices (BMDs) now being adopted or considered by jurisdictions around the country, including Georgia, Delaware, Philadelphia and elsewhere (including counties in Texas, Ohio and even here in L.A. County, the nation's largest voting jurisdiction.)
Officials are now rushing to adopt the new systems in advance of the 2020 Presidential elections. That, despite the mountain of evidence demonstrating that BMD systems cannot be reliably audited https://bradblog.com/Docs/PhilipStark_GALetter021919_BMDAuditWorthless.pdf after elections and will result in elections as faith-based and hackable-without-probability-of-detection as those on many of the older touchscreen systems they will be replacing. The boondoggle is set to be a bonanza for the private voting machine vendors, however, which stand to make hundreds of millions by forcing all voters at the polls to use unnecessary electronic systems, rather than much cheaper, verifiable, hand-marked paper ballot systems tallied by optical-scan computers or counted by hand.
Nowhere has the fight against these dangerous new systems been more contentious than in Georgia, where the state House has already voted, mostly along party lines, to move to the systems and as lawmakers in the state Senate are now on the brink of adopting the same bill, HR-316, as well. The measure would grant at least $150 million for the purchase of electronic touchscreen systems that produce an unverifiable, bar-coded (not human-readable), computer-marked "paper ballot" summary card which is no more verifiable than their 17-year old, oft-failed, easily-manipulated paperless touchscreen voting systems.
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Politico's Eric Geller ran a feature article summarizing some of the many warnings (see here https://bradblog.com/Docs/ExpertsLettertoSAFECommission_GA_BMDs_010719.pdf and here https://bradblog.com/Docs/OSETInstitute_HB316-BMDsNotVerifiable_021919.pdf for example) from cybersecurity and voting systems experts inveighing against new, touchscreen computer Ballot Marking Devices (BMDs) now being adopted or considered by jurisdictions around the country, including Georgia, Delaware, Philadelphia and elsewhere (including counties in Texas, Ohio and even here in L.A. County, the nation's largest voting jurisdiction.)
Officials are now rushing to adopt the new systems in advance of the 2020 Presidential elections. That, despite the mountain of evidence demonstrating that BMD systems cannot be reliably audited https://bradblog.com/Docs/PhilipStark_GALetter021919_BMDAuditWorthless.pdf after elections and will result in elections as faith-based and hackable-without-probability-of-detection as those on many of the older touchscreen systems they will be replacing. The boondoggle is set to be a bonanza for the private voting machine vendors, however, which stand to make hundreds of millions by forcing all voters at the polls to use unnecessary electronic systems, rather than much cheaper, verifiable, hand-marked paper ballot systems tallied by optical-scan computers or counted by hand.
Nowhere has the fight against these dangerous new systems been more contentious than in Georgia, where the state House has already voted, mostly along party lines, to move to the systems and as lawmakers in the state Senate are now on the brink of adopting the same bill, HR-316, as well. The measure would grant at least $150 million for the purchase of electronic touchscreen systems that produce an unverifiable, bar-coded (not human-readable), computer-marked "paper ballot" summary card which is no more verifiable than their 17-year old, oft-failed, easily-manipulated paperless touchscreen voting systems.
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New Voting Machines On Display For Voter Comments In Allegheny County (PGH PA) [View all]
yortsed snacilbuper
Jun 2019
OP
give it to half a dozen 17 year old hackers and if they can't change the code, i'll be impressed lol
Takket
Jun 2019
#7
I supervise elections in my hometown. I'm going to go examine them tomorrow at CCAC South.
Efilroft Sul
Jun 2019
#8
These are VERY BAD if they are BMDs -- Ballot Marking Devices; they are 100% UNVERIFIABLE & HACKABLE
diva77
Jun 2019
#13
Just got back from evaluating the vendors' offerings for Allegheny County (Pittsburgh).
Efilroft Sul
Jun 2019
#14
Thanks for the report -- and as expected. Vendors smothering elections officials with their
diva77
Jun 2019
#15