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dalton99a

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Mon May 27, 2019, 09:48 PM May 2019

When a Traffic Ticket Costs $13,000 [View all]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/27/opinion/drivers-license-suspension-fees.html

When a Traffic Ticket Costs $13,000
Suspending driver’s licenses for unpaid fees buries poor people in debt.
By Emily Reina Dindial and Ronald J. Lampard
May 27, 2019

For most people living in America, transportation is central to daily life. About 83 percent of Americans report that they regularly drive a car multiple times a week. Yet millions of drivers across the country have had their licenses suspended — taking away their ability to drive to work, school, the grocery store or the doctor — essentially because they are poor.

In 2014, Leah Jackson was ticketed for obstructing traffic in Ostego, Minn., after turning left at a red light. That kind of thing happens to many people. But, as Ms. Jackson explained to state lawmakers in 2018 testimony, she had just started a new job and hadn’t yet received a paycheck, so she couldn’t pay the $135 fine right away.

A few months later, she was pulled over, told her driver’s license was suspended for an unpaid ticket and cited for driving with a suspended license — a new $200 ticket. Her job responsibilities as a retail store manager required her to make bank runs and other deliveries, so she kept driving in order to keep her job. In less than a month, she received two more tickets for driving with a suspended license. After accounting for the additional tickets and the resulting increase in her monthly insurance premiums, her debt from the initial infraction spiraled into more than $13,000 over four and a half years.

The criminal justice system too often produces a self-perpetuating cycle, particularly for the poorest people, who can’t pay fines or hire lawyers to make charges go away. In 39 states, you can lose your driving privileges if you’re unable to pay a court fine or fee, for things as minor as a traffic violation. But a bipartisan effort is growing to end the fundamentally unjust practice of wealth-based suspensions.

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Just curious ... why not use Uber or the like instead of driving on a suspended license, etc., ... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #1
Uber was pretty much not available anywhere in 2014. /nt localroger May 2019 #3
Uber was started in San Francisco in 2009. mnhtnbb May 2019 #4
lots of places stopdiggin May 2019 #11
Why don't you pull your claws in before you accuse someone of being tone deaf...I SWBTATTReg May 2019 #16
you're right stopdiggin May 2019 #20
An unfortunate situation for this poor lady overall. In MO, they have a law that limits the... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #21
Ferguson stopdiggin May 2019 #23
I haven't seen anything like this (civil ignorance of other laws) in this area. It is something... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #24
" If people are just allowed to dodge penalties, fines and judgments..." tazkcmo May 2019 #28
I'm not even going to say what I want to say I'm just going to leave this thread alone. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #5
Uber? PatrickforO May 2019 #7
her job involved driving. if she was going to use uber or similar for it then she might end up payin JI7 May 2019 #10
Because using Uber multiple times a day Dorian Gray May 2019 #12
$13000 worth for Uber, as well as the loss of priviledge? I didn't realize Uber is that expensive.. SWBTATTReg May 2019 #15
I s'pose when we rely on "wonder drug" as the basis of our argument, we go downhill fast. LanternWaste May 2019 #18
In some states, one can get a hardship license, which is strictly to/from work/home. Also, I... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #19
She couldn't afford to pay the original ticket of $150.00 Dorian Gray May 2019 #25
Absolutely! What can't the poor just set up their uber account with their Visa Platinum? Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #27
k&r Demovictory9 May 2019 #2
after my bad experiance with uber , i will never use either uber or lift ever again . AllaN01Bear May 2019 #6
Unless she was PAID monthly rocktivity May 2019 #8
I'm guessing because she is poor and money is tight. eggplant May 2019 #9
Probably intended to pay it but kept putting it off until next week etc MichMan May 2019 #31
This is not a good result for minor traffic violations. aikoaiko May 2019 #13
People are pulled over all the time for non-moving violations. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #17
In Virginia you can take a left on red underpants May 2019 #26
Not everyone is cut out for driving Jose Garcia May 2019 #38
It sucks that she was pulled over so many times. ecstatic May 2019 #14
I have a friend going through a similar thing Dem_4_Life May 2019 #22
I had a guy working for me a few years ago who got caught driving suspended. Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #29
It sounds like she didn't put a lot of effort into taking care of the original ticket initially. Captain Stern May 2019 #30
If she hadn't turned left on a red light, the entire sequence of events wouldn't have happened. Vinca May 2019 #32
Oh bother. The first fine is nothing to an affluent person... hunter May 2019 #35
There would be no fine if there hadn't been an illegal and dangerous left turn. Vinca May 2019 #36
Um... hunter May 2019 #37
That's true, but do we even know if there Ilsa May 2019 #40
Most judges will let you do a payment plan if Jose Garcia May 2019 #33
In some nations traffic fines are proportional to income. hunter May 2019 #34
I've heard of this and was Ilsa May 2019 #39
In many places court is a 9 to 5 deal discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #41
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