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Blue_true

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25. The best General in that war by far and one of history's most brilliant
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 04:34 PM
Apr 2019

military minds was General George Henry Thomas (Thomas Circle in Washington DC is named after him and his statue is there). He produced victories in almost all the key Union victories and prevented the Union army from being overrun several times. His army held Grant's key flank at Vicksburg and his army flanked Sherman as Sherman took Atlanta - interestingly, after Sherman took Atlanta and started his famous match to the sea against little resistance, General Thomas as ordered to catch a much larger confederate army led by General Hood (who Fort Hood is named after). When Thomases Army finally caught up with the traitors, the traitors had entrenched themselves in the high ground around Nashville. Instead of foolishly attacking, Thomas drew up new battle plans and trained his men to those plans, his men included one or two Black regiments. When Thomas had his men ready, he had one of the Black regiments attack from a secure low ground, Thomas correctly guessing that the traitors would attack the Black regiment. The Black regiment fought well, driving back the traitors into Calvary that Thomas had encircle them and dismount. The battle was one of only maybe two instances in history where one army virtually obliterated another army, gaining Thomas the name "The Hammer of Nashville", that confederate defeat at Nashville was a key factor that led to Lee surrendering at the courthouse in Appomattox Virginia.

Thomas defeated every confederate general, including Stonewall Jackson, Braxton Bragg (Fort Bragg is named after him, Hood and Longstreet). Thomas' Army did not lose a single battle in the war.

Don't you mean a lesson in how TO be an awful general? ADX Apr 2019 #1
I lulz'd KG Apr 2019 #2
Yeah, most of Lee's "brilliant strategic successes" were done out of desperation... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #3
Gettysburg was Lee's undoing. He should have listened to Longstreet (one of his ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #4
Longstreet was a better general, saw the error of his ways, and joined the good guys after the war. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #9
Yeah. Blue_true Apr 2019 #27
I had no idea Dorian Gray Apr 2019 #60
What he stood for after the war is why there are not statues of him Blue_true Apr 2019 #63
The best General in that war by far and one of history's most brilliant Blue_true Apr 2019 #25
Very interesting. Thanks. underpants Apr 2019 #26
Truly great man. He was the first Union General to bring Black units into his army. Blue_true Apr 2019 #29
Yes, General Thomas was a truly great man. gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #72
Had Stonewall Jackson not been killed, Itchinjim Apr 2019 #5
You could be right about that FakeNoose Apr 2019 #11
Highly doubtful Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #14
General George Henry Thomas defeated Stobewall every time they met. Blue_true Apr 2019 #32
In what battle did he defeat Stonewall Jackson? Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #38
Thomas was credited with defeating Jackson in the Shenandoah Valley early in the war. Blue_true Apr 2019 #50
I'm pretty familiar with both Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #61
At Kernstown he was likely subordinate to General James Shields, who Blue_true Apr 2019 #64
Agreed... Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #66
Are you a Civil War buff? Blue_true Apr 2019 #67
Yeah, since I was a kid Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #68
Grant also fought in the Mexican-American war. SomethingNew Apr 2019 #51
Grant and Sherman were the safeinOhio Apr 2019 #6
General George Henry Thomas was by far the best General in that war. Blue_true Apr 2019 #35
Believe you are refering to the Battle of Shiloh gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #71
Recommended for anyone who wants to learn about the Battle of Gettysburg FakeNoose Apr 2019 #7
Gettysburg was the key battle of the war and turned the tide against Blue_true Apr 2019 #36
Vicksburg Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #53
You may be right. Blue_true Apr 2019 #56
Grant's Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #62
Grant had more men and better resources when he took over the Army of the Potomac. Blue_true Apr 2019 #65
Gettysburg was not lost by either side, although Lee retreated on bad information. Blue_true Apr 2019 #57
Yep, he was not a great general (Pickett's Charge and all that with 50% casualties)... brush Apr 2019 #8
I like generals that didn't lose civil wars lame54 Apr 2019 #10
I like generals Dirty Socialist Apr 2019 #12
How about that traitor George Washington then? Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #18
The traitor Washington was fighting for Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #19
Washington was fighting for democracy?! Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #24
I think it depends upon how "democracy" is defined. Blue_true Apr 2019 #37
But..but..but... Trump is a genius student of history and HE says that General Lee smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #13
And heroin is the best drug ever Dirty Socialist Apr 2019 #15
Trump & Lee............ MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #41
That's what happens when you snort aderall leftofcool Apr 2019 #69
One of the reasons we had statues of Lee and other Confederates.. kentuck Apr 2019 #16
The vast majority of those statues are quite recent Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #20
That is true. kentuck Apr 2019 #23
Timelines underpants Apr 2019 #31
Mmmm I'm going to disagree here a bit underpants Apr 2019 #33
Not true. The confederate monuments were put up in the south in the early 20th century. yardwork Apr 2019 #40
Not exactly misanthrope Apr 2019 #44
No Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #54
Gettysburg & Antietam modrepub Apr 2019 #17
Good post ... Meade gets overlooked a lot in the discussions, but he was RHMerriman Apr 2019 #39
Meade's Command Experience modrepub Apr 2019 #43
Good summary... RHMerriman Apr 2019 #47
Maybe modrepub Apr 2019 #74
The eastern theater was always going to be "special" however, for the very reasons you suggest RHMerriman Apr 2019 #79
Too aggressive, yes, but he had little choice... paleotn Apr 2019 #55
One little anecdote about Lee's surrender tells you everything you need to know about him. Aristus Apr 2019 #21
Old wives tale gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #73
The point of the anecdote was really more about Lee and his men. Aristus Apr 2019 #75
Officers in both armies were responsible for providing their own gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #76
A number of wealthy officers on both sides spent personal funds to equip their men. Aristus Apr 2019 #77
Lee wasnt wealthy. gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #78
...... Hateful, Ignorant and a monster (I think like Hitler), these words describes Trump to a "T" . trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #22
Know very little about the civil war... captain queeg Apr 2019 #28
Rommel and Guderian were serving a cruel, repressive, racist government. Aristus Apr 2019 #46
True but they both made stands against him at one time or anotger captain queeg Apr 2019 #70
All those Union generals he whipped might disagree hack89 Apr 2019 #30
Lots of military experts sarisataka Apr 2019 #48
trump doesn't know shit about any general. he's only full of shit. spanone Apr 2019 #34
Didn't you know Trump knows more about the military than his generals? captain queeg Apr 2019 #42
Bwahahahahahaaaa...i'm sorry spanone Apr 2019 #45
The South outperformed their economic and military capabilities compared to the North andym Apr 2019 #49
A strategist would've understood the importance of Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #52
I wouldn't go that far.... paleotn Apr 2019 #58
He was one who took bold action which ended up being his undoing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #59
I know nothing abiut the civil war, but Lee was a jerk! Bonx Apr 2019 #80
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