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9. Longstreet was a better general, saw the error of his ways, and joined the good guys after the war.

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By the way, Lee was a shitty general. [View all] Voltaire2 Apr 2019 OP

Don't you mean a lesson in how TO be an awful general? ADX Apr 2019 #1

I lulz'd KG Apr 2019 #2

Yeah, most of Lee's "brilliant strategic successes" were done out of desperation... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #3

Gettysburg was Lee's undoing. He should have listened to Longstreet (one of his ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #4

Longstreet was a better general, saw the error of his ways, and joined the good guys after the war. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #9

Yeah. Blue_true Apr 2019 #27

I had no idea Dorian Gray Apr 2019 #60

What he stood for after the war is why there are not statues of him Blue_true Apr 2019 #63

The best General in that war by far and one of history's most brilliant Blue_true Apr 2019 #25

Very interesting. Thanks. underpants Apr 2019 #26

Truly great man. He was the first Union General to bring Black units into his army. Blue_true Apr 2019 #29

Yes, General Thomas was a truly great man. gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #72

Had Stonewall Jackson not been killed, Itchinjim Apr 2019 #5

You could be right about that FakeNoose Apr 2019 #11

Highly doubtful Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #14

General George Henry Thomas defeated Stobewall every time they met. Blue_true Apr 2019 #32

In what battle did he defeat Stonewall Jackson? Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #38

Thomas was credited with defeating Jackson in the Shenandoah Valley early in the war. Blue_true Apr 2019 #50

I'm pretty familiar with both Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #61

At Kernstown he was likely subordinate to General James Shields, who Blue_true Apr 2019 #64

Agreed... Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #66

Are you a Civil War buff? Blue_true Apr 2019 #67

Yeah, since I was a kid Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #68

Grant also fought in the Mexican-American war. SomethingNew Apr 2019 #51

Grant and Sherman were the safeinOhio Apr 2019 #6

General George Henry Thomas was by far the best General in that war. Blue_true Apr 2019 #35

Believe you are refering to the Battle of Shiloh gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #71

Recommended for anyone who wants to learn about the Battle of Gettysburg FakeNoose Apr 2019 #7

Gettysburg was the key battle of the war and turned the tide against Blue_true Apr 2019 #36

Vicksburg Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #53

You may be right. Blue_true Apr 2019 #56

Grant's Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #62

Grant had more men and better resources when he took over the Army of the Potomac. Blue_true Apr 2019 #65

Gettysburg was not lost by either side, although Lee retreated on bad information. Blue_true Apr 2019 #57

Yep, he was not a great general (Pickett's Charge and all that with 50% casualties)... brush Apr 2019 #8

I like generals that didn't lose civil wars lame54 Apr 2019 #10

I like generals Dirty Socialist Apr 2019 #12

How about that traitor George Washington then? Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #18

The traitor Washington was fighting for Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #19

Washington was fighting for democracy?! Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #24

I think it depends upon how "democracy" is defined. Blue_true Apr 2019 #37

But..but..but... Trump is a genius student of history and HE says that General Lee smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #13

And heroin is the best drug ever Dirty Socialist Apr 2019 #15

Trump & Lee............ MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #41

That's what happens when you snort aderall leftofcool Apr 2019 #69

One of the reasons we had statues of Lee and other Confederates.. kentuck Apr 2019 #16

The vast majority of those statues are quite recent Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #20

That is true. kentuck Apr 2019 #23

Timelines underpants Apr 2019 #31

Mmmm I'm going to disagree here a bit underpants Apr 2019 #33

Not true. The confederate monuments were put up in the south in the early 20th century. yardwork Apr 2019 #40

Not exactly misanthrope Apr 2019 #44

No Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #54

Gettysburg & Antietam modrepub Apr 2019 #17

Good post ... Meade gets overlooked a lot in the discussions, but he was RHMerriman Apr 2019 #39

Meade's Command Experience modrepub Apr 2019 #43

Good summary... RHMerriman Apr 2019 #47

Maybe modrepub Apr 2019 #74

The eastern theater was always going to be "special" however, for the very reasons you suggest RHMerriman Apr 2019 #79

Too aggressive, yes, but he had little choice... paleotn Apr 2019 #55

One little anecdote about Lee's surrender tells you everything you need to know about him. Aristus Apr 2019 #21

Old wives tale gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #73

The point of the anecdote was really more about Lee and his men. Aristus Apr 2019 #75

Officers in both armies were responsible for providing their own gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #76

A number of wealthy officers on both sides spent personal funds to equip their men. Aristus Apr 2019 #77

Lee wasnt wealthy. gladium et scutum Apr 2019 #78

...... Hateful, Ignorant and a monster (I think like Hitler), these words describes Trump to a "T" . trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #22

Know very little about the civil war... captain queeg Apr 2019 #28

Rommel and Guderian were serving a cruel, repressive, racist government. Aristus Apr 2019 #46

True but they both made stands against him at one time or anotger captain queeg Apr 2019 #70

All those Union generals he whipped might disagree hack89 Apr 2019 #30

Lots of military experts sarisataka Apr 2019 #48

trump doesn't know shit about any general. he's only full of shit. spanone Apr 2019 #34

Didn't you know Trump knows more about the military than his generals? captain queeg Apr 2019 #42

Bwahahahahahaaaa...i'm sorry spanone Apr 2019 #45

The South outperformed their economic and military capabilities compared to the North andym Apr 2019 #49

A strategist would've understood the importance of Alpeduez21 Apr 2019 #52

I wouldn't go that far.... paleotn Apr 2019 #58

He was one who took bold action which ended up being his undoing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #59

I know nothing abiut the civil war, but Lee was a jerk! Bonx Apr 2019 #80