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In reply to the discussion: We must define acceptable and nonacceptable touching [View all]Ms. Toad
(35,196 posts)54. I agree that line is being conflated in the discussions on DU
Largely be people defending Biden - to portray Flores' statement (and concerns that Biden) as a ridiculous overreach of the #metoo movement.
The issues isn't whether contact of the nature engaged in by Biden is, "ugly, lecherous, {or a } subtle (or overtly) sexual acts" - but whether the physical contact - even benign contact engaged in with the clear intent to comfort, suppor, celebrated and to connect" is welcomed by the recipient.
Physical contact can be wonderful (my general take on the world), but it can also be offensive if it is unwanted. Being offensive is not inherenty related to being sexual. Biden should listen and learn.
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Here is an idea....When Men and Women pols are in public....NO CONTACT...
ProudMNDemocrat
Mar 2019
#1
God. this sounds so rigid and puritanical, like something out of sex-segregated Catholic School
kennetha
Mar 2019
#4
Doubt voters will warm up to a candidate who appears germaphobic, misanthropic, or agoraphobic
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#34
A whole lot of them warmed up to Trump, who is all of those things
The Velveteen Ocelot
Mar 2019
#41
interesting idea - i'll call it the "Fox News behavioral standard for Democratic candidates"
0rganism
Apr 2019
#143
Well said! I don't understand what is so hard to get about this! A male stranger
lilactime
Mar 2019
#61
It's not hard to understand. But it's a picture of a society that I don't want. I want....
LAS14
Mar 2019
#94
Back atcha. I'm shaken by how many posters think it's fine to put their hands on
lilactime
Mar 2019
#116
I am sorry the line between nonsexual contact with clear intent to comfort, support, celebrate and
hlthe2b
Mar 2019
#6
How is someone supposed to know ahead of time whether it will be welcomed? Are you advocating...
LAS14
Mar 2019
#86
I suggest never approaching someone from behind and grabbing them by surprise.
MoonRiver
Mar 2019
#7
Democrats are such precious patsies. You think the Republicans are having silly debates like this?
kennetha
Mar 2019
#12
A VP touching a candidate's shoulder at a campaign rally in support of said candidate
kennetha
Mar 2019
#19
I agree. I don't think Biden is a predator, just a guy whose boundaries
The Velveteen Ocelot
Mar 2019
#24
If as a male you wound't rub another man's shoulders and smell his hair, kiss his head,
vsrazdem
Mar 2019
#22
the way this has always been presented to me in harassment awareness training...
Takket
Mar 2019
#27
We also need to distinguish between sexually inappropriate touching and
The Velveteen Ocelot
Mar 2019
#56
I think Biden was wrong, but this is not as bad as most other metoo stories.
Oneironaut
Apr 2019
#149
Maybe the only answer is to have political gatherings take place in a Virtual Reality space.
Vinnie From Indy
Apr 2019
#161